Talk:Barbel-class submarine

General characteristics
Why are there two "General characteristics" sections with slightly different numbers? Can we eliminate one, or at least use the same numbers in both? Kendall-K1 (talk) 18:54, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Zwaardvis and Hai Lung classes not close enough
I think the Dutch Zwaardvis and Taiwanese Hai Lung classes should be removed from the Barbel-class template, with a separate template made for the Zwaardvis class, including the Hai Lungs, especially as they were all built in the Netherlands. A similar appearance and general arrangement does not amount to "the same" class. There is no indication from the articles that assistance of any kind was received from the United States in developing these submarines. Also, the Barbel-class' beam is 0.4 meters more than in the Dutch-built classes. RobDuch (talk) 21:54, 12 April 2019 (UTC)