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Puff queen
The lead is presently 75% puff (awards, accolades, sales figures, platinum records, and other wall hangings). And it mentions a few movies.

Is she merely notable as the most puffed artist of all time? (Much of which she probably deserved, I might add, in case people are reading that wrong.) Anything else about the woman might be notable? No, nothing? It's like reading the lead of the uber Paris Hilton, way more famous still, but still not half as famous as she truly deserves to be, on actual merit, to be discussed later. &mdash; MaxEnt 18:34, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Jazz singer
This article classifies her as a jazz singer. Is this true? Please share your proof with the rest of the class. –Vmavanti (talk) 00:50, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Her name is pronounced “Strei-sand,” not “Strize-and.” --Caztorp (talk) 17:44, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit needed
How does her father's appearance add to this article? Who cares? If it can't be tied in to something relevant about the subject (Barbra), then it should be removed. Most of that section is irrelevant except to stalkers and others with some sort of BS fetish. New subject: About 10 years ago, I read that she was considered to be "the" most powerful woman in Hollywood. While I suspect things have changed, she IS 77 now, if someone can find that reference, it would add to the article, I think.173.184.26.190 (talk) 19:32, 11 March 2018 (UTC) Actually, she's 76, as of today. (Carycomic) 10:43, 24 Apr. 2018 (EDT)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2018
In the box on the right there is only one sibling mentioned, while there are two (as the article itself also mentions). Please add brother Sheldon. 188.188.85.3 (talk) 23:19, 4 January 2018 (UTC)


 * ❌. Her brother is not independently notable, while her sister is. The instructions at Template:Infobox person say that relatives are listed in the infobox "only if independently notable or particularly relevant." The infobox is not supposed to be an exhaustive list. Binksternet (talk) 23:44, 4 January 2018 (UTC)


 * poster designer
 * http://www.artnet.com/artists/appelbaum-and-sheldon-j-streisand/
 * http://www.vansabbenauctions.nl/test/en/posterdesigner/Streisand
 * https://bidtoart.com/en/find-artist/sheldon-j-streisand/301293
 * http://www.findartinfo.com/english/list-prices-by-artist/290957/sheldon-j-streisand.html
 * created cover of My Name Is Barbra
 * https://www.discogs.com/artist/2375146-Sheldon-J-Streisand
 * https://www.allmusic.com/artist/sheldon-j-streisand-mn0001246733
 * John and Caroline Kennedy accuse Sheldon Streisand of cheating them out of $500,000
 * https://apnews.com/32fea3288a4f5d72c4887ddce26b2ff4
 * https://people.com/celebrity/kennedys-vs-streisand/
 * https://books.google.com/books?id=APSWggj6oT0C&pg=PA483&lpg=PA483&dq=Sheldon
 * https://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/05/business/real-estate-mineola-s-mini-boom-in-building.html
 * 69.181.23.220 (talk) 10:52, 29 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I still don't think that's enough to add Sheldon. He needs to have a Wikipedia biography written about him, and the biography should be strong enough to survive the deletion process. Binksternet (talk) 13:29, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

galicia
Wasnt Galicia part of Austria-Hungary at the time her grandparents emigrated?

Calauer (talk) 18:05, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Wrong Number of Awards
Barbra has won: Three Peabody Awards (not four) Eleven Golden Globes (not nine) And, the National Medal of Arts. Alyssamarquardt (talk) 20:35, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Barbra has won: Three Peabody Awards (not four) http://www.peabodyawards.com/results/barbra%20streisand/1/null/null/title/asc Eleven Golden Globes (not nine) http://barbra-archives.com/site/awards_streisand.html And, the National Medal of Arts. https://www.arts.gov/honors/medals/barbra-streisand Alyssamarquardt (talk) 19:24, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Peabody
The article now uses a page at the official site of the Peabody Awards to support the figure of 4 awards. It says "...with an amazing four claims to Peabodys...". The second listed does include the wording of "... Streisand shared a second Peabody...". But shared is still a win in the same way that Nobels are shared but credited as a win. The page you provide to the search results only uses the word "three" once and it's not in the context of number of awards. So, I don't see a reason for making a change to the text of the article for this particular award. † dismas †|(talk) 19:29, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Golden Globes
The site you're using as a reference is not a reliable source, in my opinion. See WP:SPS. † dismas †|(talk) 19:32, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Not done: The National Medal of Arts is already listed, 4 Peabody Awards is sourced, and barbra-archives.com is a fansite, and not a reliable source. NiciVampireHeart 16:15, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

https://www.goldenglobes.com/person/barbra-streisand Barbra Streisand won 8 voiting-competion personal Golden Globes as director, actress composer and the Cecil B. DeMille Award, plus which "As a producer, she was presented with Golden Globes for A Star is Born and Yentl, each of which won the Golden Globe for Best Musical or Comedy." This brings it to 11 Golden Globes on her shelves. Alyssamarquardt (talk) 17:27, 29 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Alyssa, unless there is a conflict of interest preventing you from making these changes yourself, I would suggest discussing this issue with other local editors in place of using the template, which is primarily meant for users whose role as a Wikipedia editor comes into conflict with some other external role. Regards,  Spintendo  22:45, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , they do have a conflict of interest. † dismas †|(talk) 23:16, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me. As I previously mentioned, Barbra has won 11 Golden Globes. On the Golden Globes website it lists that she has won 8 voiting-competion personal Golden Globes as director, actress composer and the Cecil B. DeMille Award. PLUS "As a producer, she was presented with Golden Globes for A Star is Born and Yentl, each of which won the Golden Globe for Best Musical or Comedy." This would bring it from 8 awards to 11 Golden Globes on her shelves. 2600:1702:3F0:34D0:C42D:D097:D359:5630 (talk) 16:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC) https://www.goldenglobes.com/person/barbra-streisand — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:3F0:34D0:8C68:B3A2:6BEF:6F91 (talk) 19:50, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Typo
Since the article is (semi-)protected, could someone please fix the typo "Striesand" in the section "Professional memberships"? --217.239.2.184 (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:09, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 October 2019
There's a typing error with the first name Barbara, it is written "Barbra" instead of "Barbara". Benjamin.riollet (talk) 22:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This is not in error. One is apparently her birth name, while the other is her preferred spelling. The article, and the artist herself, have been making this distinction for some time now. Spintendo  00:34, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request 15 February 2020
There's a section in her early career titled "television appearances, marriage and first albums" which includes a summary of many of her earliest TV appearances. Her appearance on the CBS show "The Judy Garland Show" should be mentioned here. It does not appear to be mentioned anywhere else in the article (my apologies if it is and I did not notice it elsewhere).

Her appearance with Garland is well remembered and includes an arrangement that mixes Streisand singing "Happy Days Are Here Again" with Garland's "Get Happy." Here's a recent link talking about the clip in "iconic" terms: https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/8532378/barbra-streisand-judy-garland-duet 2601:282:1300:296:99AD:2A7:83A4:8E23 (talk) 18:01, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2020
The beginning of the article states that she is one of only two artists to have won a Peabody award in addition to the EGOT. This changed in 2019 with Rita Moreno's win. The EGOT wikipedia page has been updated to reflect this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_won_Academy,_Emmy,_Grammy,_and_Tony_Awards. This page should be updated to reflect this. Change 'two' to 'three'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.59.211.133 (talk) 01:27, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅: Your edits have been added to the article. Donna Spencer talk-to-me ⛅ 20:29, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2020
Please change "Her co-star in Driftwood was Joan Rivers" to "Comedienne Joan Rivers also appeared in Driftwood. Rivers would later say that she had an onstage kiss with Streisand, but in fact they both had minor roles and were never on stage at the same time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:BB6:4713:4858:5A:9746:1F7C:3CAF (talk • contribs)
 * ✅. Thanks for the link, which proves your point. The non-fact is now removed. Binksternet (talk) 01:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible category removal
Barbra Streisand is currently placed in the Category:Brit Award winners, but it doesn't mention anywhere in the article that she did indeed won a Brit Award, so therefore I am requesting for that category to be removed. Is this possible? 2001:569:78BA:4A00:A1EB:48AD:5B1B:7E12 (talk) 07:51, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Or, the fact that she won the award for Memories in 1983 can be mentioned in the article. She was the first woman to win in the category of Best Selling Album. She did not attend the ceremony, and Michael Jackson accepted the award for her. Binksternet (talk) 11:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * She recently came out with a new album that is currently being sold out. She is obviously still a big star today — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbenz789 (talk • contribs)

Kind marriage
The last sentence of the Family section erroneously states that her mother and stepfather married in 1949. Louis Kind married Diana Rosen on December 23, 1950 in Jersey City. Please correct the error. You might also want to remove that disorderly assemblage of citations and use an appropriate source, such as James Spada's biography of Barbra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.181.74.57 (talk) 03:45, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Barbara is not the best selling female artist. Madonna has over 300 million. Barbara only has 95 certified.  Mariah also has more.  Barbara's Wiki page is full of errors.
Somebody please correct her page. Full of errors! 2A02:859:D5:FA00:4D0F:6FF5:C3E9:2B63 (talk) 06:00, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

It's not? Cristabel0 (talk) 06:50, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Is there a reason her popular nickname "Babs" is not mentioned in the article?
Mrs. Streisand has long been often referred to by the nickname Babs, yet this is not mentioned in the article. Unless there is a good reason to omit this, then we should add it to the article. Other Barbara's like Walters and Bush have not been referred to as Babs in the same way, so I think this bit info info belongs in the article. If you disagree, then make a case otherwise I will add it. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 22:38, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Birthday
I am a subscriber and have paid for Wikipedia. Which is meant to be free and impartial. Now it is locked to avoid vandalism?! What is all that about? Barbra Streisand turned 80 today and you have her age incorrect. Please rectify ASAP, as she all over BBC television this afternoon in celebration. Has America and Wikipedia not woken up yet.... 92.29.250.82 (talk) 13:14, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the original understanding was that Wikipedia would be impartial and nonpolitical. Some of us would like for it to adhere to that original goal instead of being pro-Left as it is today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.27.38 (talk) 17:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Nobody ever pays for Wikipedia, except for voluntary contributions to help keep it running. There is no such thing as a Wikipedia subscriber. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  19:40, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2023
Should we remove "Barbra" from the lead section that violates MOS:NICKNAME. 112.204.202.125 (talk) 08:11, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: WP:QUOTENAME states that nicknames that are not "common hypocorism" should be included the way "Barbra" is in the article. Actualcpscm (talk) 14:44, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

"Streisand" Pronunciation
69.181.23.220 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 09:11, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What's Up, Doc? - Trailer 2 - Warner Bros. via youtube
 * dailymail.mp4
 * https://www.npr.org/2016/08/20/490683349/barbra-streisand-on-broadway-hollywood-and-siri

Relationship with Michael Cimino
I think the inclusion of Michael Cimino as Streisand's partner is significant. However brief it may be, the biography of Cimino does mention that he briefly dated Streisand in 1983, which led to him considering her for a role The Fountainhead. It's a very small part, and can easily be overlooked if you read it yourself. Very briefly mentioned. Still, it was a relationship for the both of them. I ask that any reversions on the matter be given second thought. Just because no one "talks" about it I don't think means it shouldn't be included as fact. And the source comes from Cimino's closest ally, Joann Carelli, who said he had went with her in '83. Elton interviewed her for the book. Why would she lie? Cimino was private, and it was a brief little fling between the two. Makes sense to me. And doesn't sound like slander. Worth mentioning, I think. At least in some form. ZanderAlbatraz1145 (talk) 05:36, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Early Television Specials
I did not find any reference to Barbra's career-changing series of five TV specials in the early to mid-1960s. I suggest that an editor more knowledgeable on this topic than me add a new sub-section. PlaysInPeoria (talk) 15:32, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Army cot
With reference to 'anywhere else she could set up the army cot she carried around' What is an army cot? This is not clear, and the name isn't Wikilinked. Would someone either editing access modify the text to clarify. Thanks. 2003:D3:FF3D:3397:6059:CE99:30D9:4E66 (talk) 18:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 November 2023
Change her father's age of death to 35, source is her autobiography 2603:8000:BF01:5515:E98F:33CA:FB2:274A (talk) 08:23, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 13:02, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2023
Correct the spelling of her first name above her picture to Barbra. Tawanda88 (talk) 01:40, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Looks like it already is Barbra name = Barbra Streisand Cannolis (talk) 01:44, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Josh Brolin not son-in-law
Josh Brolin is her stepson, not her son-in-law. 71.78.108.226 (talk) 04:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)