Talk:Bare: A Pop Opera

Comment
I don't think you can definetly Jason as being homosexual because he does at all points in the play show self-identify as such and he definetly is depicted as being sexually active with both genders. 141.161.119.71 18:18, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

That only matters if you assume that sexual identity is defined by sexual activity. —Stu21202 01:32, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup
I've cleaned this article up quite a bit. I removed the character descriptions and synopsis as copyvios -- though there was a note stating that they were "used with permission", I'd like to see some proof that they are licensed under the GFDL. I also cleaned up the infobox quite a bit -- most of those awards are non-notable redlinks and shouldn't be in the infobox. They should, however, be in the main body of the article. &mdash;  Music  Maker  5376  15:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Cleanup
Page was reverted back to previous version. If one looks at the HISTORY of this page - it has had several edits made due to someone placing false information about future productions.

This page/entry has been maintained by members of the original production team of bare: the musical and bare: the album, with direct permission from the composer. Additional edits are completed by staff of Theatrical Rights Worldwide. Please do not edit this entry, as the information listed was approved and developed with direct consult from composer Damon Intrabartolo. All edits made by unknown parties will be undone.

Synopsis provided is the official synopsis from barethealbum.com and barethemusical.com and is reprinted with permission of composer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.107.223 (talk) 17:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Please remember that, just because the creators of the material are maintaining a page, it doesn't mean they have the right to ignore Wikipedia's guidleines. Wikipedia and its rules come before anything else here. 89.241.36.144 (talk) 20:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Official Synopsis is a Copyright Violation
You may not copy the synopsis from the official site, unless the official site states that the copyright holder has released the synopsis into the Public Domain. On the contrary, however, the website states: "© You Pay Now Music, Inc." Copying the copyrighted synopsis into a Wikipedia article is a clear violation of U.S. copyright law and Wikipedia copyright rules. Please read WP:COPYVIO. This synopsis will be deleted from the article if you attempt to copy it into the article again. The synopsis section should be a summary written in the editor's own words that does not copy the official site's words. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Edits, Copyright Violation
I am sorry for confusion surrounding my re-edits for bare: the musical today - however I handled the initial creation of this page at the request of the composer. We were unaware that it was alright for someone else to edit this material or decide what no longer can be placed on this page. We obviously want it to conform to wiki standards so I'm hoping for assistance - your recent message on here regarding copyright violation confused me. If the composer himself (owner of YouPayNow Music) came on here and reposted the synopsis, would that still be a copyright violation, as he is the one who specifically requested that synopsis to be placed on here and not any others (ie. a synopsis linked on StageAgent.)  If YOUPAYNOW MUSIC is owned by the composer and the composer asks me to place an official synopsis on the wiki page (as opposed to the synopsis that is posted on StageAgent.)  Advice is greatly appreciated, as there was already difficulty dealing with someone who was placing damaging mis-information about the show and the distributor of the rights to said show. Many thanks in advance.


 * You may want to read about the GFDL. Everything on Wikipedia is licensed under that particular copyright license, and it's basically a step above PD.  Putting the synopsis on Wikipedia basically lets anyone use it in any way they see fit, so long as attribution is maintained.  If the composer wants to license it that way, he still retains copyright and can still make money off his stuff -- but so can anyone else.
 * In my opinion, the best thing to do would be to simply write another synopsis -- it's the most expedient in terms of jumping through hoops. The composer can write it himself and just post it here.  Or, the album's site can be altered to state that it's licensed under the GFDL.  Those are the two easiest ways.
 * If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask -- either here or on one of our talk pages. &mdash;   Music  Maker  5376  22:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I read through it and will pass this info along to the right people to determine how they would like to proceed.  I appreciate the information!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinfonia98 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Anytime. &mdash;   Music  Maker  5376  22:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, please note that whatever synopsis does get posted here will be edited by other editors. Wikipedia is "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit." Basically, if the synopsis is not too long (I would shoot for a total of 750 words or so) and simply describes the events in the script, it should stick pretty well. For a good example of how we write synopses of musicals on Wikipedia, see: Hello, Dolly! (musical). Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

A Note on Notability
Please can users stop posting information about regional, amateur and school performances of this show. I'm sure the performances are great and you should be justly proud of successfully tackling a complex show like this, but in terms of Wikipedia your productions simply aren't notable enough to be included in the article.

Also, there was a link posted on here to a website for an amateur production with the tagline reading: "Come see Bare at UMASS!", which is completely inappropriate. Wikipedia is non-partisan and is not a forum for advertisments. 89.241.36.144 (talk) 20:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm unclear which productions get included in the list, but there seem to be a lot. What are the actual rules for which ones are listed?  I know of at least two productions that aren't there, but maybe they should be.  The 2008 Indianapolis production has generously posted theirs on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/bareinindy) and may end up being among the more widely-seen as a result.  The Edge Productions of Windsor, Ontario has Bare as its first production in July-August 2011, the second production of Bare in Canada (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=218667821490668).  The Edge Productions was actually created specifically for this purpose when other organizations refused to do it.  I think both Indianapolis and Windsor productions are notable for these reasons, but I'll let an editor add them if it should be done.  My own view is that Wikipedia is for its users, not for its editors, but having been smacked down before, I'll leave it at that.  24.57.210.141 (talk) 09:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


 * This entry has gotten way out of hand. The tradition is: once a script is frozen and performed on Broadway or Off-Broadway, further performances are not generally notable (excepting Broadway premieres). Even if a production is specially newsworthy (such as being the scene of a protest) this doesn't require a cast list. The Indianapolis production needs only to be in the External Links section. If Edge Productions is not notable enough to have its own Wikipedia page, the role of Bare in its genesis is by definition even less notable. NeoAdamite (talk) 12:09, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

A Further Cleanup
I took the liberty of tidying up the info posted regarding the Canadian premiere. The information hasn't been removed but I've reworded it so it only contains pertinent and notable information and serves as encyclopaedic information not shameless marketing. 78.149.126.34 (talk) 20:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Music vs. Marketing
I've removed the following from what had been the "Music" section of this article: "The sampler is also made available for free download from the Sh-K-Boom website" as well as the credits and links, changed the header to "Album" and moved it to the bottom of the article. Once again, Wikipedia is not a place to promote the show or sell music. This article seems to have a troubled history with that sort of thing. If a "Music" section is added again, it should pertain to the show itself, not a commercial link for downloading the music. Pac if ic Bo y  15:21, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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Source for filming?
Does anyone have an actual source for the claim at the end of the Planned film adaptation section that it's started filming? This was added without new citations. marsdeat Talk 16:59, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I could not find a single source to support this claim, so I have removed it from the article. Thorough Bryce (talk) 02:48, 20 April 2022 (UTC)