Talk:Barefoot and pregnant

Closed deletion listing
This article was listed for deletion on 26 April, 2005. The discussion was closed with the result of keep. This article will not be deleted. You can view the discussion, which is no longer live: Votes_for_deletion/Barefoot and pregnant. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 16:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Photo
Is there any way to use photoshop or gimp to eliminate the yellow digits from the lead pic? 24.54.208.177 22:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Just crop that edge and maybe some of the top/bottom/right too, keeping the figure centralised as much as possible of course. That will not only remove somewhat unnecessary details around the edge but will also make the thumbnail version of it seem bigger. Certainly easier for the reader. Master Thief Garrett 09:07, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Positive connotations
um, I wouldn’t say there’s a “positive” connotation this phrase at all, so much as the examples here are parody or “reclaiming.” Although, yes, being barefoot can be relaxing (especially in hippie-dip places like Mill Valley), I doubt the straightforward assertion that “barefoot and pregnant” is a good thing is at work here, so much as a sly recontextualization. —Marin Talib 20:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Not only that, but reading through the section it appears to be original research. We need some references to sources that have already analyzed the phrase and come to the conclusion there are significant positive connotations.  We should not be the first publisher of such analysis as this appears to be.  -- Siobhan Hansa 03:52, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's necessarily the assertion that it's positive, but taking the into account that it can be used both ways. It's not just used negatively, and that's shown by such businesses like the spa. --Jatessler (talk) 01:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Trimming out some spam
I trimmed a pair of links that were too commercial sites with little or no real connection to the topic (a spa that happens to be named "barefoot and pregnant" and shoes for pregnant women. Some of the other links can probably go as well, but I'm not feeling that bold. I'd suggest we trim it down to only sociological-type discussions and ditch the song lyrics as well as some of the other boarderline-spam. Wintermut3 05:12, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Bah!
I heard Kirsty Allsop use this phrase on a TV programme and I thought it was just a cute phrase she'd improvised. And now years later I stumble across this article. That's spoiled it. You bastards. (Mind you, the phrase is, I would say, unknown in the UK - obviously I hadn't heard of it - so maybe it really is a coincidence. She certainly didn't seem to be implying anything negative by it.) --80.0.130.16 14:39, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

"Other uses" section content + other content removal
I moved the following section to the talk page for discussion:

Other uses
 * Jean Ray Laury's quilt, Barefoot and Pregnant, was chosen as one of The 20th Century's 100 Best American Quilts.
 * Barefoot and Pregnant is also the title of a series of at least five pornographic movies whose plots center around sex during pregnancy.
 * "Barefoot and Pregnant" is a song by Joan Armatrading from her 1978 album To The Limit.

I think the content is only marginally relevant and more trivial in nature, and should only be included if the edits were significant enough to have their own articles (i.e. Amatrading's song was notable enough to be included in her article (it's not) or "Barefoot and Pregnant" porn had its own article (it doesn't)).

I've also made some serious edits to other parts of this article, but feel the page is much stronger without the commercial or non-notable inclusions, and there seems to have been a number of comments and tags about their removal...any comments about these edits? Flowanda | Talk 22:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Van Dalsem
Why does Paul Van Dalsem redirect here? He should have his own page. -Diegoamerezrocks (talk) 16:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Photo
Is it necessary? What exactly does it add to the topic? Nevermind if the subject of the photo gave permission to show her picture there, it makes the encyclopedia look ridiculous. hateless 02:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree and would recommend removal of the picture.--Yovi (talk) 17:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Could the people repeatedly undoing revisions to remove the picture come here and discuss its merits? I think it detracts. Tranquilled (talk) 20:35, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it is necessary either. Illustrating a figurative expression with a literal interpretation detracts from the point of the article. Deli nk (talk) 11:17, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * They illustrated with a literal interpretation over at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pessimism&oldid=374188049 Mister Ernest Thayer (talk) 14:55, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The article pessimism does not have a literal illustration of pessimism. Maybe I'm just feeding the troll by responding to you, but linking to a vandalized version from 2010 doesn't make your point.  Edgeweyes (talk) 11:49, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

joke
this phrase has often been used as a joke to tease women, that is the speaker(usually male) does not mean it, but find the reaction from the hearers humorous.

trying to find the person who was chastised during the Carter presidency for uttering this line in a joke. But it seems Wikipedia doesn't give a damn about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.244.204.194 (talk) 14:16, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

bias
there is an obvious point of view issue here. There are only feminist quotes, some which ignore the importance of bearing children and housework, as well as the unimportance of shoes, particularly those often fancied by women. Rds865 (talk) 06:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Delete this! It is a phrase, not an encylopedia entry.
At most the phrase "barefoot and pregnant" belongs in a dictionary, preferably something pop/slangy like Urban Dictionary. There is no way this phrase justifies an entire encyclopedia entry.

Delete it please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.141.232.38 (talk) 19:05, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Dutch
A somewhat similar phrase in Dutch is "Het enige recht van de vrouw is het aanrecht", which translates to something like "The only right of a woman is the sideboard", but the Dutch word for sideboard has "right" in it. The wikipedia entry for "aanrecht" has a remark about it. 88.159.71.34 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC)