Talk:Barnes, London

external link
The link to BarnesSW13 is a bit funny - the link shows the site is monitoring the use of the link. Is this against wikipedia policy, is it considered advertising? Jfr26 22:47, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be against policy if it isn't already.. The barnes-online site isn't exactly relevant either. Despite the name, there's very little that's Barnes-specific on it - it seems to be mainly about Richmond-upon-Thames / the Richmond Park constituency and the council. Also, not sure the negative section on North Barnes at the top deserves so much prominence.. What do others think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.45.22.123 (talk • contribs).


 * The relevant guideline here, IMHO, is WP:EL (and, I suppose, WP:NOT). To be sure, the referral tracking is wholly inappropriate in view of WP:SPAM's proscription against external link spamming, inasmuch as, in its ertswhile fashion, the link existed, we can safely infer, primarily to solicit traffic; I modified the link in order that the provenance of site hits should not be tracked.  The question of whether we ought to include the link at all is a closer one.  Because the site would seem to contain neutral and accurate material (even as the site ostensibly advocates that one partake of the activities there enumerated, many of those activities are non-commerical, and, in any event, certain activities, at least vis-à-vis others, are not treated tendentiously) and be a relevant web directory (as, for example, might be a link to a given Chamber of Commerce for an American city; we don't tend to look with such links with disfavor), I can abide its inclusion, even as the site does seem to exist as advertising or to promote products or services; I will understand, though, if others disagree and think the link ought to be removed straightaway.  Joe 03:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Deleted vandalism
Have deleted the following: The pub is noted for the very poor service and a very rude bar manager. --Technopat 19:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC) Looks like that vandalism is back! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.56.252 (talk) 18:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

That's not vandalism - it is a statement of fact and therefore is to remain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.176.152 (talk) 16:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It is actually not relevant in an encyclopaedia. In any case, such a statement about a living person needs to be backed up by reliable sources - see WP:BIO. Thanks. Kbthompson (talk) 18:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Notable residents
Am increasingly concerned about that growing list of notable residents. Several issues at stake here, including lack of references, for one, and non-encyclopedic, for another. Feedback, anyone? --Technopat (talk) 09:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * With all due respect to the hard work, zeal and enthusiasm editors are showing in adding sections of long lists of notable citizens to articles, let's see if we can get some consensus going on this issue.


 * Among my many concerns is that article pages corresponding to big cities - New York is one that springs readily to mind, with over 19,000,000 (2008 est.) citizens - but of course we mustn't limit it to our particular ethnocentricity (pun intended) - may end up with long lists of notables far exceeding the relative importance to the article itself.


 * The fact that someone or another lives somewhere is really all not that important (after all, we ALL have to live somewhere) unless s/he has actually "done" something notable towards, shall we say, improving that particular place or is of some historical relevance.


 * Other issues at stake here include inline references, what Wikipedia is/is not, etc.

Looking forward to feedback on this one.--Technopat (talk) 18:35, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Removed unreferenced list of notable residents
Have removed the following un-encyclopaedic list - even if it were referenced, am not sure it should be included:

Notable residents
Well-known people who have lived in Barnes include:


 * Chris Patten, the last UK Governor of Hong Kong, who was present along with the Prince of Wales at the handover to the People's Republic of China in 1997 is officially Baron Patten of Barnes, having chosen his place of residence as the basis for his title. He is currently the patron of the Tory Reform Group and Chancellor of Newcastle University and Oxford University.
 * James King, political activist
 * Henry Fielding, writer
 * Gustav Holst, composer
 * Tim Henman, tennis player
 * Brian May, member of rock group Queen
 * Alistair McGowan, comedian
 * Lynn Redgrave and John Clark, actors
 * Tim Rice, lyricist
 * Anneka Rice, broadcaster
 * Kurt Schwitters, artist
 * Ray Stubbs, broadcaster
 * Dame Ninette de Valois, founder of the Royal Ballet
 * David Harsent, poet
 * Roger McGough, poet
 * Marcel Desailly, sportsman
 * Simon Le Bon, member of pop group Duran Duran
 * Basil Moss, actor
 * Aled Jones, singer
 * Jon Pertwee, actor
 * Jan Pienkowski, artist, illustrator, and children's author
 * Sheherazade Goldsmith, author and environmentalist
 * Zac Goldsmith, environmentalist
 * Robert Pattinson, actor, musician
 * Ralph McTell, songwriter and singer
 * Pete Tong, radio 1 disc jockey

Feedback? --Technopat (talk) 21:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Noteable (sic) residents
--Technopat (talk) 18:45, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Michael Ball

Political representation
Is the inclusion of Zac Goldsmith's candidature justified? It's hard to see what is notable about this: he is not a politician of note, not is the parliamentary seat of any particular electoral significance, for example as a key marginal. It smacks slightly of the possibility that someone has added it with the aim of giving publicity to or promoting Mr Goldsmith's candidature.

MJCHA (talk) 08:20, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, it is not justified. Goldsmith is of no relevance to Barnes per se, and of marginal relevance to the wider constituency since he has not run for election. But I've restored Baron Patten of Barnes to the "political representation" section since he is the local peer, and therefore has a stronger connection to the place than simply living there as do the other "famous residents".

01:04 8 February 2009 (GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.113.237 (talk)

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