Talk:Baroque Works

Combine Articles?
The Cipher Pol page lists all of the members on a single page, and that seems to be working pretty well. Perhaps the Baroque Works article should do the same. After all, there isn't really that much information in many of the Baroque Works members pages. Some, like Crocodile and Mr. 2 should probably remain seperate, however. Anyone agree or disagree? Sigmasonic X 06:31, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Well considering this page looks arkward and those pages look lonely... I say go for it. ;) Angel Emfrbl 07:45, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Bounties
I'd like to see some sources on Mr 1's supposed 51 million bounty, because I seem to recall that being nothing but a far to long lived rumor based upon Zoro's bounty.

I also removed the 42 million bounty listed on Mr 3, as the three translations I have access to regarding chapter 125 (Stephen's, the official Swedish and an unknown english translation) all agreed that he defeated a man with a 42 million bounty (which isn't the same thing as having that bounty himself). 81.227.98.242 19:34, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Since no-one posted any sources I removed the note regarding Mr 1's supposed bounty. If you're going to add it again, please provide an actual source before doing so.81.227.106.71 17:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

13 or 14?
Just a thought. This has somehow been bugging me since the page has been set up.Are there 13 main agent groups or 14?

If we disregard the male members' code names (Mr. 0 - Mr. 13), consider Mr. 2's position is supposed to a group position, note the Unluckies as being a separate group from the Billions and Millions, and count them all, the number of main agent groups that don't consist of random grunts adds up to 14.

Just a thought.CalicoD.Sparrow 04:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Reguarding Mr.3
I noticed someone linked to his page recently. To correct this link, from what I gather, that page is a redundant page. Meaning the info was transferred here and the page was leave more or less to rot. It wasn't deleted. All the agents in the officer agents category had simulair pages, all of which are not in use, with the exception of Mr.2 for his major role in the Alabasta Arc. The real point though, is why when the pages for these guys were detached from this article, were they not put up for deletation? Now months after the orginal transferrment, we have someone stepping in and linking back to it.

Its time to sort out this issue. If the other pages exist still (I haven't checked as of writing this), we need to slap a deletation template on them before someone else does this same thing to the other agents. We also need to think on whether Mr.3's page link should go back to just being text on this page. Angel Emfrbl 22:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Mr. 1.
It says that through training he is always in his metal form. But since in the Devil Fruit section it is listed as a Paramecia, could he just be like Luffy and Buggy whose bodies are always using their power, such as Luffy always being rubber and Buggy being able to be cut? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.120.99.10 (talk) 01:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC).

Mergine Mr. 3
Why are we merging the characters into this page? It looks like that page had info that this page doesn't, and this page is pretty big and unwieldly as it is. Shouldn't we have small descriptions on this page and link to seperate pages for the member who can support a normal size page? - Peregrine Fisher 04:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * We don't need more pages for One Piece, seriously, the amout needs to be kept to a minium as much as possible. Okay I'm for a short description or no external pages save Miss All-Sunday as she is a straw hat and croc is a major villian.  Mr 2, 3 and others don't need pages.  In fact we tried to get rid of them once but someone found the old page and linked back.  I haven't looked on here for a while, save to remove references to non-english and Japanese refs.  But yeah - no more One Piece pages.  This is mentioned because of things to do with the "in Universe" thing Wikipedia has.  It almost caused us to loose a past recently.  Angel Emfrbl 07:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Miss Goldenweek's Powers
Guys, I have to state this - she is not a Devil Fruit User. It is stated in one SBS by Oda she uses symbols and colours as a form of hyponiting people. It is not speculated by fans, its a FACT. Can we stop added she may have eaten one, because she is confirmed she didn't. And I'm also shocked this info was removed from her profile, it was completely uness. to do so since it was confirmed. I'll add it back if I can find the SBS later. Angel Emfrbl 07:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

why is crocodile's main page missing?
Sir Crocodile has achieved more than sufficient to deserve a main page in the Enemies category. However I have noticed that his page is missing and combined with Baroque Works organization section. I do not feel that this decision was justified. The amount of information related to Crocodile is greater than the amount of texts allowed in Baroque Works section. Was the deletion of Crocodile's page the move as a joke from an individual or a serious group decision? Please response and restore Crocodile's main page.


 * See the main page talk page... You see, if people ENTERED these discussions instead of ignoring them, they'd known whats going on. Angel Emfrbl 07:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

crocodile's missing information
why is the main page for crocodile missing? he is one of the most important villian and deseves to have his own article seprate from the rest of baroque works.i don't know if it was done by an individule but at least half the information on it is now gone and it bothers me that a central villian has so little information on it comaried to what used to be there. what ever the cases i think that even if he dosn't get a main article at least all the former information should be put back along with information that was taken away before the articale was merged like attacks and triva.


 * No attacks. Angel Emfrbl 07:59, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Its probably best if we split his info, have Croc as Mr.0 here and Croc as Shichibukai on the said page. Angel Emfrbl 20:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Reason for Female Agents Names
In an SBS, Eiichiro Oda stated that the female agents names are ranked in order of what he thought were the most important holidays to a female in Japan (All Sunday because there is no school/work, New Years, Bon Kurei = Girl's Holday, Goldenweek = week off for shopping, etc.). This information should be incorporated into the main article along with the exact SBS the info came from.

Croc's Defeat
I know what the song is that plays in the background, but I'm wondering if there's any point in putting it in the Trivia section. It's Dvorak's Fifth, if anyone wanted to know. 211.30.212.36 08:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Misc. useless trivia that wikipedia hates so much. Curiousity hits me, which dub did you get this from?  From my memory of Croc's defeat, there was nothing but rubbish music playing in the background.  I know someone redid the scene WITH classical music in.  Did you watch that and mistake it for officalness? Angel Emfrbl 10:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It's Dvorak's Ninth "From the New World", actually, movement 4 if I recall correctly, and it played in the original Japanese episode. See [] -- Balcerzak 20:22, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah... Being a fan of classical music it does trigger my curiousity and I would like to glimpse a scene with this in to confirm you are correct. What is important is that you haven't put forward the ep. reference for any of this yet so someone can check this out.   Angel Emfrbl 22:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The episode is the one where Luffy defeats Crocodile. I've made no attempts at obfuscating the matter, however, to be perfectly explicit, it was Episode 126.  It's after the eyecatch, beginning at about 13:45 in the version I'm watching and plays prominently until it fades out at around 17:15.  It then fades back in at around 20:45 and lasts to the "To Be Continued".-- Balcerzak 20:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

trivia
for trivia for mr.2 in movie 2 one of his ships is seen next to the straw hats ship http://youtube.com/watch?v=SMA3AgAw-u8&mode=related&search= It's 6 minutes and 20 seconds in.--71.248.163.215 16:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Bon Kurei?
For some reason, I seem to remember his name as "Bon Clay" when he had his own article, and IIRC, that's how Oda himself romanized it. Why was it changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.209.223 (talk) 03:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Oda has romanised it as "Kurei" in the BW mini-series it apparently was on a wanted poster. Truth be told, I've never seen this poster so I can't confirm this.  But thats where to look for it.  Only about 25 chapter titles.  Lol.  Angel Emfrbl 23:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It is Kurei - Chapter 372 title page. It's strange that it has been translated to Clay so many times seeing as the holiday is Bon Kure.

Trim
The page has been revised for a possible merge, though I would prefer to keep the article intact. "Team Theme" categories removed, because they are fan observations that aren't confrimed by Oda. Ark (talk) 16:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Only the no.7 pair were said to be the "sniper pair", closet thing to those themes. What made those themes difficult was the Mr.0 pair anyhow. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 16:42, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I honestly don't have a major problem with the theme thing, but as a matter of principle I have remove it. If I leave that then a case can be made for other bits of speculation to enter the articles. Ark (talk) 17:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Unstandable. The OP pages get this kind of thing a lot - Enel looking like Eniem (spelling?), is another common one. Angel Emfrbl (talk) 18:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)