Talk:Bart Sells His Soul/Archive 1

ethel smith
when the lady is playing the organ at the beginning I do believe it is a reference to ethel smith. a famouse old lady who played the organ very fast in the 40s and 50s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.8.249.246 (talk) 19:34, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Cultural references
I removed the trivia tag from the "Cultural references" section since these sections are not regarded as trivia in Simpsons articles. If you take a look at WikiProject The Simpsons you'll see that in Simpsons episode articles "Cultural references" sections are desirable. Dutzi (talk) 18:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced
Unsourced, moved from article to talk page. Cirt (talk) 16:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Cultural references
When Bart and Milhouse are talking about souls, Bart says "Souls are just something parents make up to scare their kids, like the boogeyman or Michael Jackson."
 * Sherri and Terri sing an adapted "Miss Susie".
 * The song "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" is portrayed as lasting 17 1/2 minutes, as the album version does, with the church goers holding up candles, a la cigarette lighters at a concert, towards the end.
 * When Bart asked Millhouse for his soul back, he tells Bart that he has sold it for ALF pogs.
 * Dr. Hibbert and his family decide on going to The Texas Cheesecake Depository. This is a reference to the Texas School Book Depository.
 * Moe reads a book entitled "Your Gimmicky Restaurant" by Bennigan and Fuddrucker.
 * Lisa quotes Chilean poet Pablo Neruda.
 * Ned Flanders notes that he would expect foul language at Denny's.
 * The scene where Milhouse is seen playing roughly with Bart's soul in his backyard with his Army figurines is similar to a recurring sketch on the short-lived sketch show Fridays about a hyperactive boy (played by Michael Richards) who would always stage elaborate and very violent war games with his Army men while in a mud pit in his backyard.
 * Milhouse mentions the Ayatollah while playing war games in the backyard, saying "If the Ayatollah can't have it (Bart's soul), no one can."
 * Bart's line "Are you there, God? It's me, Bart Simpson." is a reference to the teen novel Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret.
 * The basis for this episode is a possible reference to the Tales From The Darkside episode "I'll Give You A Million" in which a man sells his soul to an old rival for $1,000,000.
 * The raving hobo who Chief Wiggum confronts states something about Alfred Hitchcock stealing his ideas.

GA Review
This article had a GA Review, unfortunately it was closed as not listed at this point in time, due to instability and therefore not satisfying WP:WIAGA, point 5. Hopefully we can take some time to further improve the article, do some additional copyediting and give it another few passes for writing quality - and then reassess where to go from there, whether WP:GAN again, or perhaps even a peer review before and/or after that. Cirt (talk) 08:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I think you jumped the gun. It wasn't really an edit war - and certainly nothing serious enough to destabilize it - and I feel the article is a lot closer to GA status than the reviewer said it was. -- Scorpion 0422  15:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * There was edit-warring going on back and forth, with absolutely zero discussion of it by any of the parties involved, at this talk page. I would feel much more comfortable after a breather period of reevaluating at a later point in time, and then going for peer review, and then another try at WP:GAN. Cirt (talk) 23:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit war? It was barely a skirmish. Discussion wasn't needed as it was covered on my talk page. As scorpion said, you jumped the gun. Not only is there no destabilisation, the article is actually better now. -- Web H amster  07:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ,, , , and . Unfortunately, prior to all this, the article was quite stable. Cirt (talk) 07:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ooh, look at the dates and time, and ooh, look at the article since. What a strange definition of "unstable" you have. -- Web H amster  07:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What a strange definition of civility you have. Cirt (talk) 07:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not strange at all, just different and non-deferential. Someone should come up with an equivalent of Godwin's Law for when people start using the WP:CIVIL gambit as an answer to being disagreed with. -- Web H amster  08:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

OR violation
"On a wall of Uncle Moe's Family Feedbag, a sled with rosebud written on it was mounted, likley a reference to the film Citizen Kane."

This is WP:NOR violation. Please, do not add it back without a cite to a secondary source, and discussion as to why this is particularly noteworthy to include in the article. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 11:49, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This is textbook OR. So there's a sled marked rosebud. That's all that can be proved by watching the episode. A secondary source is needed to state this is a reference to Citizen Kane. You finding something obvious does not mean somebody else will, like, for example, somebody who knew nothing about Citizen Kane. Gran2 11:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)