Talk:Baseball (disambiguation)

Inclusion of Atari 2600 Entry
Hi, ShelfSkewed ... I wanted to discuss the grey-area involved in including the Atari 2600 game on the list here.

I agree with your main point: neither the Sears game title (Baseball) nor its Atari equivalent (Home Run) have primary articles yet. In this regard, Disambiguation would seem to support this by suggesting that there is no "existing Wikipedia article to which that word or phrase might be expected to lead."

On the other hand, however, the presence of the other video games on the list generates possible confusion. Disambiguation suggests that an article should be added "if the article's subject (or the relevant subtopic thereof) could plausibly be referred to by essentially the same name as the disambiguated term in a sufficiently generic context."

If the other video games on the list presumably meet this latter requirement, then the relevant subtopic (the game Home Run) of another article (i originally suggested Atari 2600, but this may not be the best suggestion per below) theoretically would, as well.

I agree that this would be a no-brainer if the Home_Run_(video_game) article existed (as red links in multiple articles suggests it should). In its absence, however, i think the games relevance to another article (as a subtopic) still warrants its inclusion on the list. If a user searching "Baseball" might be expected to end up at Baseball_(1977_video_game), as this list suggests, it would seem reasonable that they might expect to end up at List of Atari 2600 games (in lieu of the Home_Run_(video_game) article that doesn't yet exist).

Perhaps the article List of Atari 2600 games would be more relevant. Would you support re-instating the item with this link in place of my original Atari 2600 link?

Another option would be to actually include the red link to Home_Run_(video_game) itself, which Disambiguation dos and don'ts is acceptible if the red link is already used in at least one standing article (and in this case there are three, plus a valid entry on the Home_run_(disambiguation) page). Would you support this option as a better choice?

Thanks for your willingness to discuss. Best regards,

An Earthshine (talk) 17:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I have to call myself out for this one: I didn't check the article List of Atari 2600 games closely enough to see that the alternate title was supported there. I have restored the entry with a supporting link to the list article. Sorry about that, and thanks for pointing out the right thing to do. Cheers!-- Shelf Skewed  Talk  17:14, 21 July 2011 (UTC)


 * No apologies necessary! Your catch helped me realize the article i was linking wasn't the best one to use, and i like your replacement entry better than mine, anyway.  :)  Thanks for taking the time to check it out and review.  Best,
 * An Earthshine (talk) 19:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)