Talk:Basilica of Saint Augustine, Rome

Merging Proposal
I propose to merge the content of the articles 'Basilica of Saint Augustine in Campo Marzio' and 'Sant'Agostino, Rome'. My reason are: Therefore I propose to merge the content into Basilica of Saint Augustine, Rome and redirect the pages Basilica of Saint Augustine in Campo Marzio and Sant'Agostino, Rome to it. Kaklen (talk) 19:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) The name of the article Sant'Agostino, Rome is in Italian and I think and English title would be more appropriate. Also, the title does not include information that the article is about a church or a basilica.
 * 2) The first paragraph and infobox in Basilica of Saint Augustine in Campo Marzio is more complete and accurate. However, the name of the article is too long.
 * 3) The title Basilica of Saint Augustine, Rome is more concise and precise for the purpose.


 * You cannot merge a page into a redirect (especially not by placing the merge tags on the talk page, see WP:MERGE). That is just moving the page, aka renaming it.  Go to WP:RM and follow the instructions there to create a move/rename discussion.  Lithopsian (talk) 19:31, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * My mistake. You want to merge two existing articles and place the resulting combined article at this title?  Confusing and asking for 100 different opinions to bog down the discussion, but might work if it is entirely clearcut.  Still, merge tags go on the article page, not on the talk page.  Placing one on a redirect is not a good idea though, breaks the redirect.  I suggest discussing the merge and worry about what to call it later, or call it something neutral and consider whether to rename it here later.  Lithopsian (talk) 19:37, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is the idea. I will make the discussion then. Thanks. Kaklen (talk) 19:42, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You might want to re-examine the article titles. The two wikilinks at the top of this discussion are one article and one redirect.  I have attempted to reverse the cut'n'paste move that you made earlier today.  This is not an acceptable way to move the contents of an article from one title to another.  Possibly I made a mistake since all the articles involved were also renamed (ie. moved properly) during the process.  The additions you added to the pasted article have also been removed.  You can retrieve them from the page history, either to be added to the page as it stands now, or added later when the dust settled.  It still appears that you are proposing to move one article to a redirect that currently targets it, which would not be a merge.  As I say, re-examine the article titles as they are now and see.  Lithopsian (talk) 20:06, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I am going to add the information removed to the 'main article' and then I will propose a move of the page. Kaklen (talk) 20:13, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Sorry about all this, but it is important to keep the history of page edits with the page, for attribution purposes.  Otherwise it will appear (perhaps inadvertently) that one person suddenly wrote an entire article in one gulp, when it was in fact created over time by the contributions of many different editors.  When proposing a page move, it may help to be able to quote from the Wikipedia policies on page titles at WP:TITLE.  Lithopsian (talk) 20:30, 30 April 2020 (UTC)