Talk:Basketball moves

NEEDS REFERENCES
Hardly any references on this page; if some individuals familiar with basketball could find some references this would help. There has been a request for references on the page since January 2007. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

This page is now open to discuss about measures to improve quality this article.
---This pages has been revised too many times for no reason.
 * Jab steps and pump fake are important techniques. Whoever edited the previous entries deleted them without explanation.  To all viewers, please do not delete somethings because you don't know what it is.


 * I found the edits that removed the Jab step and Pump fake, as well as a wealth of other removed content: Layups, Triple Threat position and related moves, and Post up and related moves. I have incorporated this content back into the page.  Please do not remove this information without discussing it here on the talk page.  However, if you think that you can organize the information better, please do so. - cgilbert(talk|contribs) 07:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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 * I edited a few sections to improve their readability. I don't think I removed anything important, but feel free to go over my edits and see if I did anything wrong. 72.200.136.66 18:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * For the two person game, perhaps we should just make a seperate page for basketball play. Pick and roll, give and go are plays. Wikipedia has a page for football tactics, I don't see why basketball cannot have one.


 * I am also in favor of a basketball strategy and/or tactics page. I'm not very familiar with offensive strategy, but a defensive strategy section could include some of the zone defenses (many of which are not explained well or at all), double-teaming, and matching up player sizes.  For offensive tactics, such as the ones above, pick and roll, and give and go, we could add the weave, and maybe some of the post-up and triple-threat techniques there. - cgilbert(talk 11:29, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Small or not doesn't matter, no such thing as taking advantage about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bepis3920 (talk • contribs) 20:34, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

move definition formatting
It weirds me out that each mode is defined in the following format:

Jump is when the player compresses and then expands their legs in order to get off the ground.

It looks like the writing of someone who doesn't quite understand english. I haven't changed any from this format, for fear of stepping on toes, but I think they would look better if they started with the word "A". Anyone else with me?

I think moves are examples or variations of a skill. In general skills are broader than moves. For example, Dribbling, passing are example of skills (basic of the basics). But behind the back pass, finger roll, between the leg crossover are moves. The basketball player has good basketball skills to enable him to pull off good moves, agree? Thus, passes are not moves. They are basketball skills.

But I understand it is hard to draw the line between moves and skills. Any inputs?

Bounce pass, overhead pass, baseball pass
This material was removed once, but I replaced it. Even though these moves might be basic, they still provide some valuable information to those not as familiar with the game. If anyone wishes to remove this information, please discuss it here before doing so. - cgilbert(talk 11:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Crossover dribble
This really does not explain what the crossover dribble actually IS. Rather it goes directly to describe what it DOES. Can someone please expand on this and write the IS part? (I lack the expertise to do that myself). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.191.190.78 (talk) 20:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Famous crossovers
The list of people famous for their crossovers is too long. I've never said 'Oh yeah, Steve Nash, he's the guy with the nasty crossover'. You could leave it at Hardaway and Iverson and make the point. These kind of sections get overkill sometimes. If you google "Ben Gordon crossover", you get 5 results, 3 of which are the same video.

Elbow pass
It's only been done one time in the NBA, and that was in an All star game. Does it need a paragraph longer than that on the hesitation dribble? I second that this should not receive its own paragraph. There could, however be a paragraph for "miscellaneous/trick passes" and this one could be mentioned there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.191.190.78 (talk) 20:16, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Currently Elbow pass (basketball) redirects here while the article is not referencing it anymore at all. ThePointForward   /   talk  09:41, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Tear drop redirect.
Why does "tear drop" redirect here? Is this really the first thing the average person thinks when they see those words? I think a better redirect would be to the disambiguation page Teardrop. Mbarbier (talk) 17:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, I'm invoking WP:BOLD and changing the redirect. I just really think it's silly as it is.  If you disagree, you can change it back and let's talk about it. Mbarbier (talk) 17:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Videos
If I'll provide a few vides of some of the steps, will they be allowed into the article? 130.92.9.58 (talk) 14:08, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Pass fake
I'm missing the pass fake... --178.197.224.215 (talk) 20:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Adding to Post Moves Section
Over the next few weeks, for a school project, I plan on adding to the post moves section of this article.

I'm currently reading NBA Coaches Playbook: Techniques, Tactics, and Teaching Points, written by 28 coaches and players with NBA and college experience.

The post moves chapter, written by Kareem Abdul-Jabar, has 15 pages of valuable insight and instruction, so there are techniques and tactics I'd like to use to expand this article.

I may also use an instructional DVD by Rick Torbett called Better Basketball: Better Post Play, as well as the book Basketball Skills and Drills, by Jerry V. Krause, Don Meyer, and Jerry Meyer, which contains 20 pages about playing the post.

JLyle91 (talk) 18:27, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Merging the sections for Shots and Shooting?
I was wondering why there is a section labeled "Shots" and another labeled "Shooting."

The subsections for "Shots" are; Layups, Reverse Layup, Finger roll, Tear drop, Power stop/drive, Double clutch, Bank shot, and Putback and tip-in.

The subsections for "Shooting" are; Pull-Up Jumper, Turnaround jump shot, and Fadeaway.

Can I merge the two sections?

Another option may be to rename "Shots" as a section labeled "Layups." I would also then rename "Shooting" as "Jump Shots," and move the Bank shot subsection under "Jump Shots."

Any ideas or opinions?

JLyle91 (talk) 16:00, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Obscure player reference
In the description for the move "In and Out Dribble," the author wrote "Jeron Melroy of the Los Angeles Clippers has used this move to great effect." I did not recognize the name so I googled “Jeron Melroy Clippers” and every website result has the same sentence ("Jeron Melroy of the Los Angeles Clippers has used this move to great effect"). I also searched "Jeron Melroy basketball" and "Jeron Melroy NBA," and had no luck verifying that this was a real NBA player. I plan to remove the Jeron Melroy player reference from this article.

JLyle91 (talk) 15:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC)