Talk:Bassett-Lowke

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Should mention perhaps be made of the museum in Arromanches dedicated to the Mulberry Harbours? The models they have of the harbours are all Bassett-Lowke products if I remember rightly WelshMatt 12:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't see why Arromanches shouldn't go in, if we can find a really good supporting reference. Currently the article seems a bit unbalanced, with lots of detail about the outdoor "ride-on" railways, but almost nothing about other key parts of the BL company's range (like their indoors 00-gauge railways, their Gauge 0 and higher indoors railways, and their relationships with Bing and Carette and Trix (Stefan Bing). Some of the BL adverts described their output as being in three main ranges, the outdoor railways, the indoor railways and the boats. I think the War Years stuff is interesting (and historically significant) and deserves to go in, but given that much of it was secret at the time, finding good primary published sources is likely to be problematic. If there's a page on the Arromanches Museum website anywhere that makes a nice clear statement about BL and the Mulberry Harbours, then that would be useful. ErkDemon (talk) 22:26, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Brighton Toy and Model Museum link
Hi guys! I notice that an editor has just deleted the link to the museum's Bassett-Lowke resources, citing WP:ELNO (avoid links to open wikis unless ...). However, the linked resource is not on an open wiki (it uses MediaWiki software, but editing is for authorised users only), so the reason given for deletion would not seem to be valid.

I don't know of another Bassett-Lowke reference collection on public show (although it's mostly just the BL model railway pieces). It's an accredited museum, registered charity, and there's no monetisation (no adverts or stuff being sold) on the website. The Bassett-Lowke Society links page lists both the BTMM and the the Cumberland Toy and Model Museum as relevant museum resources, but the CTMM closed a while ago, so now it just seems to be the BTMM.

Should I simply revert the edit?

I'm currently working at the museum (on a fixed-term project) so it could look like a conflict of interest. ErkDemon (talk) 11:27, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The problem isn't just that it's an open wiki, but that it also contains factual errors (for example, "Sterling" instead of "Stirling" in several places). Furthermore, your adding of links to that site to several articles (some of which had only a tenuous connection) could be considered WP:LINKSPAM, especially since you have now stated that you work for the Brighton Toy and Model Museum. -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)


 * But, since the museum resource in question is NOT an open wiki, that was in turn a factual error on your part (now compounded by repetition, despite the fact that you've been corrected once already). We're none of us perfect ... thanks for pointing out the repeated spelling mistake in "Stirling" - that's now fixed, and if you have any other issues with the museum site, you can leave a note on my talk page, and I'll try to get them resolved.


 * I'm not aware of any "tenuous" links that I've added wrt the museum, or any links that that break any of the existing conventions on any individual Wikipedia articles, but if you find any, again, you can leave a note on my talk page. I've been trying to judge the relevance and worth of each link in the context of each article, which is what we're supposed to do. For this article, objectively, I think that since the museum has what appears to be the world's biggest public collection of Bassett-Lowke indoor model trains, and also has an online Bassett-Lowke resource with B-L exhibit listings, photographs of BL pieces and scans of old BL printed materials, that linking from the wp page to that resource page was a pretty obvious thing to do, and that removing the link was perhaps somewhat perverse.


 * Regarding the spam issue, you may like to read the WP:CURATOR and WP:Advice_for_the_cultural_sector guidelines - people working at organisations in the Museums/Galleries/etc sector are not subject to quite the same rules regarding linking to one's organisation's content as other people. According to these guidelines, we are not just permitted to do this, we are actively encouraged to do it, as part of the the Wikipedia Foundation's outreach programme. So for instance, someone who works at the National Gallery is allowed and encouraged to link from Wikipedia pages about artists or specific paintings to pages on their organisation website for additional resources for those artists or paintings, provided that their links are made appropriately, are specific, and add sufficient value to the articles in question. The fact that a person works at that institution (and may even have been intimately involved in the collection of the resources being linked to) is not in itself supposed to make them liable to accusations of spamming or self-promotion, or conflict of interest, because it's been decided that the interests and goals of organisations in this sector are generally in concord with those of Wikipedia (the preservation and dissemination of information). If the Louvre have a new set of online resources on Leonardo da Vinci, then gallery volunteers, staff, the resource compiler, even the CEO are all allowed to add the link to Wikipedia if it's otherwise appropriate - they don't have to wait for a member of the public to do it for them. ErkDemon (talk) 20:15, 29 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, it's been over a month, if there are no objections from anybody else, I'll revert the link. ErkDemon (talk) 22:03, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Brighton Manufacturing Company
"Brighton Manufacturing Company, LTD 32, Great St. Helens, London, England." This address seems odd, and cannot be found in modern maps. Can anyone confirm its location ? RGCorris (talk) 12:53, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Roubaix, 1911
Do you know or find anything about the Expo in Roubaix, 1911? --NearEMPTiness (talk) 14:13, 22 December 2019 (UTC)