Talk:Batley

The Batt Familly
Is it the case that the Batt family gave their name to the town... Or is it the case that the Batt familly is coincidentally named. If the Batt family are recorded in the domesday book along with the entry for batley then I suppose this question is answered. Another thing to look for are entries for other towns ending in the anglo saxon 'ley' to see if their spellings were similar to the entry for Batley. Since it seems likely that Batley is spelt in a more French way in the domesday book for historical reasons. My understanding is that the Batt familly changed their name to Batt in order to make it appear that their familly was ancient. (unsigned)


 * We need reliable sources that are verifiable. The domesday book would qualify.  My own 'understanding' is that before the French conquest, this had been solid Dane territory for quite some time, so the Anglo-Saxons might have little to do with it.  Even the modern word bat (animal) is from O. Norse; the Anglo-Saxon word for the bat animal was totally unsimilar. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 13:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)



According to the BBC's 1986 domesday book (http://domesday.domesday1986.com) Batley is named after Batta's Ley, this seems right to me. I'm fairly convinced that Batley is named after a person in the same way that Grimsby etc. (Grims Town) is. I just aren't convinced that the Batt familly of 'Oakwell Hall' fame were hundreds of years old. It costs £3.50 to check the Domesday look for a single entry. So I'm trying to find an alternative source. (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/domesday/) I think we should start an 'etymology' section to contain all this.

The Dewsbury-Batley-Birstall valley
Is there a name for the valley in which dewsbury, batley and birstall sit?

Batley/Dewsbury distinction
At what point does Batley end and Dewsbury begin? The two towns merge into one another, but there must be a boundary somewhere, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.174.8.199 (talk) 14:21, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

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Population
I have used the 2011 Census figures to clarify the population of Batley, they can be updated when 2021 figures are published next year. I have also removed irrelevant information. Esemgee (talk) 10:39, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Demography
This section is very limited in scope, the pictures of places of worship, whilst not entirely unconnected with Demographics, would probably be best placed in the previous section - there are some important ones missed out as well, such as St Mary’s RC Church. Bearing in mind Batley’s significant RC population, many of whom are of Irish descent this would seem quite an omission

The rest of the section deals only with ethnicity - and only about ‘South Asian’ ethnicity. It’s very narrow in scope. It’s also very misleading. The figures given relating to Batley East & Batley West - which are perhaps council wards ??? But gives the impression of covering two halves of the town. The source given is a no longer maintained government website that has since been archived - its not easy to access that information from the given source.

In fact the figure from 2011 for people giving their ethnicity as “Asian” is 19.8%, which is wildly out of kilter with figures given. The text on the page says : “The South Asian population is … “ this is an imprecise expression - it could imply either people who were born in South Asia, or are citizens of countries in South Asia; or it may (I’m guessing does) refer to people who describe themselves as being of South Asian ethnicity. Since many of the latter will be second, third or later generations of descendants of South Asian immigrants, it’s likely to be a bigger number than the former. The use of the term “South Asian” is also problematic, as it’s not a category on the census return, and the figures given are claimed to be taken from the census. No one could have given this as a response in the census (although it could be extrapolated) The expression is used often in the US, to distinguish between Asian in a US sense, which usually refers to China, Japan, Hong Kong, etc and Asian in a British sense which normally refers primarily to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh - its understandable as Wiki is a world wide platform - but needs clarification.

Demography is a far wider subject than is presented here

2A02:C7E:E6A:8A00:941D:90D2:DBF4:1364 (talk) 23:44, 21 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, but we need sources if we're to improve it. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 07:19, 22 November 2021 (UTC)