Talk:Baton Rouge, Louisiana/Archive 1

Statistics
The "Statistics" section should be dropped in my opinion. It covers much of the same information as the "Demographics" section and takes up a lot more space. Funnyhat 23:32, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * What source provided this information:

New Orleans evacuee exodus Even though Baton Rouge held the most displaced citizens from the New Orleans area following the effects of hurricane Katrina and the levee failures that followed (around 250,000 evacuees resided in Baton Rouge in October 2005). The housing market in Baton Rouge was not stable enough to accommodate the evacuees and the infrastructure could not handle the possible "new residents" and therefore led to between 215,000 to 230,000 evacuees leaving the area. To date (October 2006) Baton Rouge has seen the largest decline of evacuee population out of all cities that had a major number of evacuees with most residents returning to the greater New Orleans area. To date Baton Rouge has between 20,000 to 35,000 evacuees with the majority claiming to be "temporary citizens" showing a "strong desire" to return to their home towns. The exodus of the large amounts of evacuees is the exact opposite of what the Baton Rouge chamber and Mayor-President Kip Holden anticipated. They anticipated most New Orleans evacuees to make Baton Rouge their permanent home but with so many evacuees having left the area it disputes their earlier claims and brings into question the truth about the "growth" in the area.

Is there any way to have an article refernce posted? Thanks

Hurricane Katrina Local Rumors
Because of all the recent additions (for which we certainly thank the contributors), I couldn't sort out who posted all that crap about "widespread riots and looting." It was only rumors, which the Adocate later reported as such, and I've deleted it and rewritten the remaining paragraphs. (I was downtown in my capacity as a city-parish employee while the supposed "riots" were going on, and while the area was crowded and bordering psychologically on chaotic, there were no violent incidents.)

I hadn't heard about the supposed armed hold-up at the Walmart. Can anyone confirm whether that incident did or did not take place? --Michael K. Smith 15:39, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

The 2000s
Are there any references for the material in this section? If so, something should be cited in the text to keep it from looking like unchecked hopeful assumptions.

Dmk5717 23:26, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

There are numerous gramatical errors in that section as well.

Baton Rouge's population
temporarily, or not, i hear that many people will want to stay in baton rouge. new orleans is just gonna have to get used to being in the shadow baton rouge was in. :)


 * We should at least wait until the U.S. Census Bureau release the city population estimates of 2005 in June before amending any information about population and rank. If New Orleans is the 2nd largest city by the time of the release, then it will be changed, but until then, leave it as is. As I explained before, these numbers are publised by the U.S. Census Bureau, which do not cover temporary transient population. only permanent residents who pay taxes within the city. --Moreau36; 1944, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

well, maybe your right, but either with the hurricane, or without the hurricane, baton rouge would probably still have surpassed new orleans in the upcoming decades. Im an baton rougeon, and i beleive that even if all the people return to new orleans, and try to make it "bigger and better" than before, it will suffer major decline, as Detroit is.

I've fixed up the first paragrph to explain why Baton Rouge is temporarily the largets city in Louisiana. Whether this is permanent or not, we can't say, but it is indisputable that New Orleans currently has fewer residents than Baton Rouge. However, a note was made that the situation is uncertain. - Cuivienen 04:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm updating the latest population estimates, based on the state's figures published in today's Advocate. Even though these are not "official" (i.e., Census Bureau figures), they are being treated as such because of the necessity of adjusting public services to accommodate the new more-or-less permanent residents. --Michael K. Smith 18:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Article name
Why is this article on Baton Rouge, Louisiana when there are no other Baton Rouges? Jon Harald Søby \ no na 17:20, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Standard policy. All articles on cities and towns have their name followed by their province/nation name even if the city name is unique. It would have to be something likeLlanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch to lose the appendage. - Cuivienen 04:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
 * According to Rand McNally, there is also a Baton Rouge, South Carolina. -- BuzzDog 06:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Civil War
Whoever wrote "Most of the fighting took place around what is now the National Cemetery (many Union dead being buried where they fell)" has their facts wrong. The U.S. Military Cemetery was established in 1867, five years after the battle. Much of the fighting took place at Magnolia Cemetery, which was dedicated as Baton Rouge's official burial ground in 1852, ten years before the battle. Magnolia Cemetery is located on the land on the north side of Florida Blvd between 19th and 22nd, not too far from the U.S. Military Cemetery. Anyway, I cut the whole section about the Battle of Baton Rouge, refering readers to the main article ([[Battle of Baton Rouge (1862)), which is an example of excellent writing and well-cited research) Wikiwopbop 04:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Publications
Took out, "weekly alternative." The LSU Reveille is LSU's _official_ college newspaper, it's published on a _daily_ basis when classes are in. 225 is a _monthly_ magazine. Nitpicky, sure. But this article needs TLQC. 199.80.65.98 19:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)Brandon

Article length
The article is currently 68K, which is about twice as long as is generally recommended. Most of the problem is the history section, which is definitely too long. I would suggest spinning off the current text into a separate sub-article, and replacing it in this article with a summary no more than 3 paragraphs in length. The lists near the end of the article are also getting somewhat long; it might be worth considering creating an article like "Notable residents and buildings of Baton Rouge, Louisana" to move this information out. Or perhaps other editors have more elegant ideas. -- Beland 16:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

City name
The article says "Baton Rouge" means "red stick", and that a French explorer saw a bloody cypress tree — and then stops there. So was the town named after that red tree, or what? — Loadmaster 03:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Basically, yes. The names appears in the notebook of the French explorer Pierre Le Moyne Sieur d'Iberville's engineer, Penicault, when they passed in 1699. The site was allegedly near Southern University's campus, where a work by the scupture Frank Hayden stand commemorating the spot (Frank Hayden is also responsible for most of the installations at Galvez plaza, celebrating Galvez, Oliver Pollock (inventor fo the dollar sign, allegedly why Master P and Lil' Boosie have at different times chosen Baton Rouge to reside) and the only Revolutionary War Battle to occur in what became the Louisiana territory. Another name for adopted for Baton Rouge by white settlers was Istrouma, a Choctaw word meaning "Red Stick", which shows up a lot locally. The city has had a couple of other names, too.  Briefly, and speculatively, Dironbourg, after an early functionary who was given some arpents here.  Under the British, New Richmond, though it is not clear if that referred to the British fort that was here or the surrounding town. Also, the area grew up from a ton of different settlements, most of which no longer exist, were annexed, or exist today only as names of neighborhoods, or semi-autonomous suburbs. So, names float around, that or more or less synonymous on a much, much smaller scale with typical neighborhoods in larger cities. These should not be mistaken as names locals use for the area - no one ever refers to Baton Rouge as Spanish town (though there's a lot of reason to do exactly that, historically, outside of the very small art district by that name) or Southdowns, or Shenandoah - as someone had previously edited this article. That's just not the case.

The marker and game drying theories of the red stick are the most prevalent. There's also an account from a Mississippi based paper around in the 1830s that suggests a more sensational origin of the red stick. It's complete nonsense and total rubish, but it alludes to child murder, cannabalism, and of course, savage Indians rubbing a child's innards all over a pole. Those crazy Indians, what villainous antics will they dream up next? 72.207.239.115 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 04:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

NOT GOOD
I see that people are adding things about Baton Rouge which arent true, or have 0 proof and no sources, yet moderators are warning me and threatning to block me whenever i try to fix this article.

"''As of October 2006 between 15,000 and 30,000 displaced citizens remain in Baton Rouge and many consider themselves to be temporary residents. Ed Kramer of Palm Hills Development LLC and D.R. Horton a Fort Worth, Texas, homebuilder who was thinking about building some homes in Baton Rouge, Ascension and Livingston parish questioned just how stable the Baton Rouge market is and what the demand would be the for new homes being built in the three parish metro area by saying "The conventional wisdom was that Baton Rouge was going to gain 100,000 in population (post-Katrina), then 60,000, then 30,000 so the number of displaced citizens have decreased dramatically. But I see the New Orleans recovery, (while) slow to pick up momentum, coming back faster and stronger than people are giving credit for," and more New Orleanians leaving the Baton Rouge area for New Orleans or elsewhere, Kramer said. Are there that many people looking for that type of product? I don't know," he said. The mass exodus of displaced citizens from the Baton Rouge area is the opposite of what Mayor-President Kip Holden and the Baton Rouge area Chamber believed, they believed that the majority of the displaced residents would make Baton Rouge their permanent home but with the mass exodus it really brings into question the truth about the "growth" in the Baton Rouge area. Some argue whether Baton Rouge should even be called a "growing" city seeing as hundreds of thousands of displaced citizens have left the Baton Rouge area by saying the statement is contradictory to the true declining state of Baton Rouge's population nearly a year and half removed from Katrina and say that since that first mass migration after Hurricane Katrina to the Baton Rouge area Baton Rouge's population has declined''"

The above seems to be written by an New orleans natice who fails to accept the FACT that Baton Rouge has really changed, and the city's citizens have been through alot to improve Baton Rouge, and at the same time provide great hospitality to storm evacuees from places such as New Orleans.

You guys are very ungrateful, trying to setup an bad image for a city of hard work and sacrafice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.203.137.204 (talk) 06:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

Ungrateful or not, the numbers simply aren't true. Census figures more up-to-date than 2000(they don't just sit on their asses for 10 years, the bureau collects information in between) gathered BEFORE Katrina contraindicate population loss - this is probably due to the housing and construction boom in Baton Rouge (largest since the 60s) underway before the hit, that attracted an enormous amount of migrant and contract labor from Texas and elsewhere. You can also call the city's DPW, school board, the state's DOTD, and any of the public social services agencies, and the public information officer, and just about any other metric you want to ring up, to show that the city's population was increasing and continues to increase, albeit not with the meteoric rate observed after the hurricane and somewhat incautiously extended into the future. There's no reason to hate. The population is what it is, it isn't some pissing match or a contest. I hate to burst anyone's New Orleans loving bubble, but of the primary large city's that little girls and boys dreamed about growing up and marrying here, New Orleans weren't it, not even the Top 5. Baton Rouge's large yankee and non-resident population, engorged by petro-chemical dollars, fantasized about Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Chicago, the East Coast, even Austin and St. Louis before dimmed eyes alighted on suitor number 11 from the secondary bracket. In general, New Orleans was always someone you'd get ripped up with and f*ck, not someone you take home to meet mom and invite into the family. You see, you have to be siblings first for sibling rivalry to take effect. 72.207.239.115 04:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Southeastern Louisiana University is in the city of Hammond, Louisiana.
Good number students at Southeastern Louisiana University commute from however it is in the city of Hammond, Louisiana I do not think it gose well in the Baton Rouge article--Looktothis (talk) 00:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Boosterism, weak history
I was surprised to find the following in the History section (my emphasis): "Increased civic-mindedness and the arrival of the Louisville, New Orleans, and Texas Railroad led to the development of more forward-looking leadership...." Who write this, the Chamber of Commerce?

At the same time, the historical narrative has large gaps: the Louisiana Purchase, Baton Rouge's position at the frontier of Spanish West Florida, and the attack on Spanish Baton Rouge by Americans in (IIRC) 1810. There's nothing about the "Republic of West Florida" or the West Florida parishes, as they're still called. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 16:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Education:
In an article about the City or Parish of Baton Rouge, the education section should confine itself to school districts within the boundaries of those jurisdictions. Many of the school districts mentioned in the article are in the BTR Metropolitan and adjacent areas but are not in Baton Rouge proper. This kind of looseness leads to confusion as to the differences between Cities, Counties, and Metro Areas in the minds of readers not familiar with the difference, esp. when the names of the City, County, and Metro Area are similar. Districts outside the city should be listed in the article about the metro area. You could also get into serious trouble with some by introducing school districts that are outside the city that are typically thought of as recipients of "white flight" from the city. It has also been stated that the article on Baton Rouge itself may be too long. This is one area where it would be safe to say that information not pertaining to Baton Rouge proper should be removed.--Mrcajun (talk) 04:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Neighborhoods
Corrected the entry for Sherwood Forest, as the article stated that it is west of Broadmoor. It is actually located EAST of Broadmoor. -- BuzzDog 06:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it would be grat if there were a section on the politics of the city. It is known around the state, as is the state around the country, for its corruption.
 * Being known for something doesn't make it true. Louisiana is trying to shake the country's antiquated view of its political system.  Of course there is still corruption, but it remains to be proven if the present corruption in Louisiana is any more common than in other states.  It seems as if it is just more widely-known in Louisiana. --Bobster687 15:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I, too, agree that a politics section would be boss. However, we should clarify, Baton Rouge Politics are pretty staid. Not too many elected to the City-Parish Government, their appointees or employees are cooling their heels with the likes of the Edwardses. You might be confusing corruption with balkanizing tensions. Or maybe you're confusing the corruption of the State Government that meets in Baton Rouge with Baton Rouge's homegrown polity. I'm not sure. But considering that Dardenne is the first Baton Rouge politician to hold a state-wide elective office in many, many decades, you'd be hard pressed to make the Baton Rouge as corrupt force in Louisiana government case, all Cleos and Fields notwithstanding.


 * Baton Rouge, still very much so, has a definite good-old-boy bent to it's political and social structure. Any outsider looking in will tell you that and that is why people around the nation still think this way about Baton Rouge. This is never more prevalent than in Baton Rouge's neighborhoods. In fact, the catch phrase for 'Southdowns' (the bar) is: "Where the elite meet". Also, this exclusionary attitude is more plainly illustrated by the notation that 'Spanish Town' is "one of the city's trendiest neighborhoods". This statement is highly debatable and what's not mentioned is that the 'Spanish Town' demographic is made up of some of Baton Rouge's most wealthy citizenry and it has yet to be illustrated that wealth in and of itself can instigate any trends, locally or nationally. It's not like there are any Peggy Guggenheim's living in Baton Rouge and even less so in 'Spanish Town'. The working class neighborhoods of Baton Rouge are getting a short shrift in the article and I hope that some people will expand them and point out their interesting qualities as I have. --Jeffrey Beary 14:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I admire your zealous neighborhood pride, but you must understand the significance of areas like Downtown, Spanish Town, Beauregard Town, etc. This is not a battle between the "elite" and the working man, as you suggest. These neighborhoods receive precedence over the more modern, suburban ones like Broadmoor because they are essential in understanding the history and development of Baton Rouge. These are the oldest areas in the city - most being represented on the National Register of Historic Places - and embody the very foundation of Baton Rouge in terms of history, culture, diversity, architecture, and so on. The Neighborhood section is not a popularity contest nor is it a place for promotion of your own neighborhood. Grahamattacks 00:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

@Grahamattacks: Your argument is ridiculous. Just because something is older than something else establishes absolutely no significance. So you can’t argue that areas of town (or neighborhoods) “like Downtown, Spanish Town, Beauregard Town” should take precedence moreover newer areas or neighborhoods because you believe that these older sections tell the story of Baton Rouge’s development. Contrary, you could argue in terms of “gentrification” over some period of time as being the denominator for a representational Baton Rouge. And as we all can understand “gentrification” takes time and money and is mostly a political endeavor. Factually, if things around town weren’t so much of a “popularity contest” then there would be no such thing as Baton Rouge “history, culture, diversity”, because these things are conferred by some political authority and politics is mostly a popularity contest; open your eyes and look around and possibly you will see the foolishness that is Huey Long’s legacy intact and at work even today. The act of caring enough to renew, reuse, and recycle is what leads to true significance. Thankfully there are some people with some sense around here who went the full route of practicing “preservation” and arrived at the conclusion that some buildings need to be on the national historic register. Such is the case with the Old State Capitol, a building that not only encapsulates the “history, culture, diversity, architecture” of Baton Rouge, but also is useful for generations to come because of its beauty. However, its location downtown means nothing. Sadly, there are many places outside of downtown that should be given the same reverence but are not because people like yourself just don’t get what preservation is all about. A road such as Florida Blvd. also can exemplify the “history, culture, diversity, architecture” of Baton Rouge but is ghastly at best. And why is this? Because it’s not “popular” or moreover its use is no more than a roadway for the populous. You want to be gauche, so be it, stake your claim on some property in “Downtown, Spanish Town, Beauregard Town” and watch while the rest of the city grows beyond its bounds so it can avoid the very ugly underneath that is pervasive throughout Baton Rouge. Ignoring a problem does not make a problem go away you fool! --Jeffrey Beary (talk) 19:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbeary (talk • contribs) 19:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Film Industry section
The Film Industry section of this article reads like promotional material. In addition, it is poorly cited, with only a link to an external website and an inline citation that does not reference a website. This section should either be rewritten with reliable sources in more neutral language. If that is not possible, the section should be removed. &mdash; Viridiscalculus (talk) 19:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Nottoway Plantation
I think it is inappropriate to include an image or mention of Nottoway Plantation in an article about Baton Rouge. It is not located in Baton Rouge, or an adjoining city. In addition, there are other prominent antebellum homes in outlying areas.

I just feel it is somewhat disingenuous to show a picture of Nottoway here so that the outsider would assume they could see it without a lengthy drive across the river and through several other towns or cities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.35.225.231 (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I would tend to agree. Nottoway is just outside of the city of White Castle, La. White Castle actually derives it's name from Nottoway, so to attribute the plantation to Baton Rouge is not just an error, it's a slight to White Castle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burlyswamprat (talk • contribs) 18:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane Gustav
The poorly written section on Hurricane Gustav was removed because the author presented no sources for the information. Many would argue that Hurricane Andrew was the worst to hit Baton Rouge, while still others would argue for Hurricane Betsy. This is a matter of some conjecture and any section making a claim as to the worst storm should contain citations which provide evidence for the claim, with inflation adjusted financial data. Revmqo (talk) 15:01, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

That's very true, but bear in mind that Gustav was a significant store in Baton Rouge History. DEMCO, one of the two major power providers in the Greater Baton Rouge area, actually lost many of it's Transmission lines during the storm, causing 100% of their customers to be without powers at one point. That in itself is such a rare and remarkable (if tragic) thing to make it noteworthy. Having lived through both Andrew and Gustav in the Greater Baton Rouge area, I can tell you that Gustav deserves it's place, and the original claim of "Worst storm to hit Baton Rouge" might not be that much of a falicy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burlyswamprat (talk • contribs) 18:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Population number in Google Books
I made edit historical population table in the Demographic in Baton Rouge, LA. Click to http://books.google.com/books?id=9OMCy5CUprgC&pg=PA219&dq=Zachary+la+7,297+population+1980+census&hl=en&ei=13PMTb-XGYrM0AGw4cDSBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CFoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Zachary%20la%207%2C297%20population%201980%20census&f=false is list of cities in Louisiana from 1820 to 2000 Census. Thank you. Ross Degenstein --24.111.34.170 (talk) 00:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Land Area/Population
75.9.33.111 Please note that this article is about the City of Baton Rouge, NOT EBR Parish. Also, your continued changes are not supported by sources. A simple search for city land area is different from the numbers you keep posting.--Revmqo (talk) 23:18, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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Comments
There is no such city outside of New Orleans called Jefferson. There is a Parish, but not a city. The sister city section is totally gone.

I've never heard of Baton Rouge referred to as "Red Stick" in a serious manner. Is there a source for this?
 * Moreover, I've never heard anyone refer to Baton Rouge as "Beauregard Town", who added this in?
 * I've definitely heard it called "Red Stick" before, but I've never in my life heard it called "Beauregard Town," and I'm from Baton Rouge. --Bobster687 21:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

In French, the adjective comes after the noun. "Baton" is French for "stick" and "Rouge" is French for "red", thus "red stick". Berberry (talk) 15:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

If you've never heard of baton rouge called Red Stick then you obviously have no buisness writing about Baton Rouge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.10.14.99 (talk) 06:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

As is partly clarified below, Beauregard Town is merely a neighborhood within Baton Rouge. However, it is the second oldest residential area of the city and in the nineteenth century Beauregard Town comprised nearly half the residential part of what was then the City of Baton Rouge (along with Spanish Town, the very oldest neighborhood). And I have to agree with the person who said if you've never heard Baton Rouge called "the Red Stick" then you haven't lived here very long (or you haven't paid much attention, at least)... --Fondfire (talk) 23:21, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

When did the east bank become known as the "left" bank?


 * It's on the left as you face downstream -- the standard way of describing the sides of a flowing river. --Michael K. Smith 15:00, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

- I've run out of steam for awhile. I'll add more to the 20th century section of "History" as I get the chance, and I have a number of pix and historical maps to add as well. If anyone thinks parts of this article (the Battle of Baton Rouge, for instance) would be better as separate articles, be my guest -- though I note that the history sections of much larger cities, like San Francisco and New Orleans are still embedded in their general articles. . ..

Also, several of the proper names on the page (Dunbar, Williams, and possibly others) need to be disambiguated.

Also also, this page needs sections on the city/parish form of government, recent events like the secession of Central, a separate article on the Louisiana State Capitol, and probably other stuff. --Michael K. Smith 15:00, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Structure
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Federal Representation:
The article lists the post office as the only federal activity in town. There is a Federal Bankruptcy court and a US District Court of the Fifth Circuit (I think that it's the Middle District of LA). Further research needs to be done to determine what are the most important federal agencies in the city. The post office, I would think, would not be notable in that just about every place in the country is served by USPS. --Mrcajun (talk) 04:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the FBI has a presence in the office park near the CB&I building. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.64.0.254 (talk) 22:51, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Timeline of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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Is Baton Rouge the largest municipality in Louisiana?
I just did some calculations. New Orleans had 484,674 people compared to Baton Rouge's 387,784 people as of 2000. However, it appears New Orleans lost −29.1% of it's population, and Baton Rouge only lost -0.9%. The 2010 Census totals of 343,829 for New Orleans and 384,452 for Baton Rouge would mean Baton Rouge is the largest municipality? If you are wondering where I got the Baton Rouge Census totals, the municipality actually seems to govern the rural parts of East Baton Rouge Parish, which I assumed includes everything but Baker, Central, Zachary (the only incorporated places in East Baton Rouge Parish). Thus subtracting those populations from the Parish population gives the figures I quoted above. I'm wondering if any experts out there will tell me where I went wrong. Thanks! Mattximus (talk) 23:24, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The Census figures listed in each article's Demographics section has New Orleans at 343,829 in 2010 and Baton Rouge at 229,493. The 29.1% decline is from the 2000 population of 484,764. The percent next to each population number is relative to the previous census. For 2015, the current estimate for NO is 389,617, a 13.3% increase from 2010. East Baton Rouge Parish is the largest parish in the state by population, but not sure where the population numbers you are using for Baton Rouge are coming from. See Baton Rouge, Louisiana --JonRidinger (talk) 04:44, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Seeing what you included at Talk:New Orleans, be careful about coming up with your own population totals. The Census is what we generally go by and the Census obviously doesn't include the unincorporated parts of East Baton Rouge Parish with the city of Baton Rouge total. The city and parish have a consolidated government, but like Nashville, Tennessee, not all parts of the county are part of the city, even if the city-parish provides services to the entire parish. --JonRidinger (talk) 04:55, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for such a prompt reply. Would it be fair to say that the municipality of Baton Rouge Consolidated Government is the population I quote above, however the city of Baton Rouge itself (non-municipal definition) would be the one quoted in the infobox? It seems to me that checking out the official website, that the mayor-president and metropolitan council of Baton Rouge does indeed legislate over the rural (non-incorporated) areas of East Baton Rouge Parish. Mattximus (talk)
 * You're correct that the unincorporated parts of East Baton Rouge Parish are governed by the City of Baton Rouge. However, the Census does not include the unincorporated parts of the parish in the city's total population and the Census numbers are the ones that should be put in the table. The source linked on the table leads to the Census already, so the numbers in the table and in the source should be consistent. Lafayette and Houma (Terrebonne Parish) also fall under this and should be changed back. I don't know why the Census doesn't include the entire consolidated areas in their populations, but it doesn't. I think it's fine if the consolidation information is mentioned on the page, but it shouldn't be on the table. A note at the end or a paragraph in the beginning would be more suitable. Fruitianslip (talk) 20:20, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 12 April 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 23:11, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Baton Rouge, Louisiana → Baton Rouge – The latter page already redirects to the former page.  BAP reme  ( T / C ) 01:43, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). –Ammarpad (talk) 03:43, 12 April 2018 (UTC)


 * queried the move request.
 * The current name is consistent with WP:USPLACE. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:05, 12 April 2018 (UTC).
 * Oppose see WP:USPLACE. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:46, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per USPLACE (and WP:PERENNIAL). ╠╣uw [ talk ] 10:11, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:USPLACE. Unless you want to change the rules of WP:USPLACE, it's fine. Paintspot Infez (talk) 12:27, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Moral support. Dohn joe (talk) 13:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:USPLACE and and WP:PERENNIAL. Baton Rouge isn't one of the listed cities that is commonly mentioned without the state name. --JonRidinger (talk) 17:41, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:USPLACE. I favor dismantling the guideline over making individual changes which don't abide by Wikipedia's consistency rules. Nohomersryan (talk) 19:21, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose move. Though the Louisiana city may be the primary topic for Baton Rouge, it's not on the AP Stylebook list so WP:USPLACE suggests the state name be included.  ONR  (talk)  22:27, 12 April 2018 (UTC)


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Miss USA pageants - notability
I believe that the section is too long.Xx236 (talk) 10:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Commuting
"99% of the Baton Rouge workforce drives a personal vehicle to work." This is incorrect.

"The average one-way commute time in Baton Rouge is 22 minutes, 13% shorter than the US average. Interstates 10 and 12, the two interstates that feed into the city, are highly traveled and connected by highways and four-lane roads that connect the downtown business area to surrounding parishes." This needs a source, but it might be a candidate for deletion: estimates for regional commute times are unreliable. Oldsanfelipe (talk) 10:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I already deleted this, "99% of the Baton Rouge workforce drives a personal vehicle to work." 90.4% commuted by car (includes driving alone and carpooling), but only about 82% drove their own cars in 2016.Oldsanfelipe (talk) 10:30, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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Cityscape
Baton Rouge did not grow much into a city until after the during the late 19th century to early 20th century. In fact much of what is now downtown was the whole town of Baton Rouge. Even today many residents and visitors refer to Baton Rouge as having a small town feel for a city of its size. The Baton Rouge skyline stands along the Mississippi River that feeds the commercial and financial success of Louisiana's capital city. The State Capitol building, tallest in the country, stands apart looking upon the business district. The Louisiana “town” sits on the banks of the Mississippi River and serves as the gateway to much of the commerce in northern reaches of the United States. 1885352611 In 1998, with the consolidation of the Eastern European styled state buildings in restructured Capital Park, Baton Rouge embarked on a citywide effort aimed at transforming its fading downtown into a new urbanist-inspired vision of a walkable, vibrant community where a diverse population could live, work and play. ====Downtown====

Downtown Baton Rouge is the city’s oldest established area, with two neighborhoods — Spanish Town and Beauregard Town — that date back to the early 1800s. The area of Downtown itself was once the actual Town of Baton Baton Rouge dating back to the settlements in 1721. Downtown Baton Rouge home to museums, restaurants, attractions, and landmarks, including both State Capitol houses, two Governor’s Mansions and a 5000 year Native American Mound. Downtown East includes a recently designated National Historic District, with new businesses being established in the historic side of the city.

Mid City
Bordering the Garden District and Downtown East, Mid City is an easy mix of homes, businesses, schools, and antique shops, and home to Mid City Beer Garden. The neighborhood’s two annual art festivals — White Light Night and Hot Art, Cool Nights, taking place in November and May, respectively — draw crowds who revel in the works of local artists and sounds of area musicians.

Garden District
Situated on the outskirts of Louisiana State University, this district is known for its diverse offerings parks, restaurants, museums, galleries, and classic Oak Tree scenery, accented by classic Southern architecture. This neighborhood is a combination of three Historic Districts, that has trail to run or bike ride around LSU’s lakes.The annual St. Patrick’s Wearin’ of the Green Parade, one of the city’s acclaimed holiday celebrations occurs here.

Scotlandville
Nestled in the northern section of the East Baton Rouge Parish, Scotlandville sits between the Mississippi River and Southern University, part of the only historically black colleges and universities system in the United States. It was the largest African American town in the state of Louisiana. The area has numerous African American landmarks, two historic theaters, and is the location of the original Red Stick., for which the city of Baton Rouge is named. The Baton Rouge airport is located in Scotlandville. Scotlandville is located the North Baton Rouge District.ref> Geography Baton Rouge is located on the banks of the Mississippi River in southeastern Louisiana. It lies on a low elevation of 56 to a little over 62 feet above sea level. According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area 79.1 sqmi, of which 76.8 sqmi are land and 2.2 sqmi (2.81%) are covered by water. The city is located on the first set of bluffs north of the Mississippi River Delta's coastal plains. Because of its prominent location along the river and on the bluffs, which prevents flooding, the French built a fort in the city in 1719. Baton Rouge is the third-southmost capital city in the continental United States, after Austin, Texas, and Tallahassee, Florida. Baton Rouge is 79 mi northwest of New Orleans ,59 mi northeast of Lafayette and 130 mi east of Lake Charles. It is the cultural and economic center of the [[Baton Rouge metropolitan

Baton Rouge has three artificial lake systems within the city limits, University Lake,City Park Lake, and Capitol Lake and two still active Swamps, Devil's Swamp and Bluebonnet Swamp. The lakes provide venues for boating, swimming, and other forms of recreation on the lake shores. Bayou Manchac, a historic waterway that was a main stream of travel between New Orleans and Baton Rouge, sits on the along the city limits. The city sits upon on of the few natural water well systems in the country. At one time it was noted as the best tasting water in the nation. A large water tower was completed in 1888 by E. Smedley and John H. Wood of Dubuque, Iowa which could hold 132,500 gallons of water. Along with flat lands, Baton Rouge does have a small section of the city with natural hills and valleys.

Economy
Baton Rouge has a become a growing hub in the American South. The city has made headlines nationally as a growing economic development hub. Baton Rouge enjoys a strong economy that has helped the city be ranked as one of the "Top 10 Places for Young Adults" in 2010 by portfolio. Baton Rouge was also named as a top 3 city for women to start a business. Baton Rouge was home to a Fortune 500 company in The Shaw Group, which was bought by CB&I in 2013. The city is home to two S&P 500 companies in Lamar Adverting and Amedisys. Baton Rouge based Turner Industries was named one of the top contractors in the Texas and Louisiana region. and one of the top 20 cities in North America for economic strength by the Brookings Institution. In 2009, the city was ranked by CNN as the 9th-best place in the country to start a new business. Lamar Advertising Company has its headquarters in Baton Rouge.

Port

Baton Rouge is the furthest inland port on the Mississippi River that can accommodate ocean-going tankers and cargo carriers. The ships transfer their cargo (grain, crude, cars, containers) at Baton Rouge onto rails and pipelines (to travel east-west) or barges (to travel north). Deep-draft vessels cannot pass the Old Huey Long Bridge because the clearance is insufficient. In addition, the river depth decreases significantly just to the north, near Port Hudson. The Greater Baton Rouge port is one of the most busy ports in the country ranking top ten nationally in total tonnage. . Project cargo, plastics, containers, project cargo, sugar, forest products, biomass, steel, ores, grains, petroleum, specialty chemicals, and molasses are just a few of the products that move through the Port of Greater Baton Rouge.The Port of Greater Baton Rouge is strategically located on the Mississippi River and is an integral part of the national maritime industry and Louisiana economy. Handling a diverse range of cargo and accommodating special requests is a trademark of the Port of Greater Baton Rouge. The largest family owned coffee company in the world, Community Coffee uses this port. Some of the companies located at the port are Agway Systems, Inc., American International Maritime Co., LLC ,Ardent Mills, Inc. ,Community Coffee Company , Contanda, LLC , Continental Cement Company ,Centerpoint Terminal Company, Dal-co Marine Services, Dow Chemical Company ,Drax Biomass , ExxonMobil , Genesis Energy , Katoen Natie Louisiana, Louis Dreyfus Commodities , Louisiana Sugarcane Products, Inc. , and many more.

Industry

Baton Rouge's largest industry is petrochemical production and manufacturing. ExxonMobil's Baton Rouge Refinery complex is the fourth-largest oil refinery in the country; it is the world's 10th largest. ExxonMobil is an important industry to the economic, political and social landscape of the community.The current facilities produce gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, aviation fuel, lubricating oils and waxes.Products produced at the plant are used to make products people use every day, including paint, adhesives, plastic milk jugs, auto parts, plastic films, synthetic rubber, diapers and lubricants. Baton Rouge also has rail, highway, pipeline, and deep-water access.

Dow Chemical Company has a large plant in Iberville Parish near Plaquemine, 17 mi south of Baton Rouge. Shaw Construction, Turner, and Harmony all started with performing construction work at these plants. Dow is the largest petrochemical company in the state, providing jobs for more than 6,000 Dow and contract employees, and producing over $1 billion into the state’s economy each year, with the plant in the Greater Baton Rouge Metroplex and regional corporate offices in Baton Rouge. . Dow’s operations produce the building blocks for plastics, soaps, detergents, cosmetics, shampoos, pharmaceuticals and other goods.

Shell Geismar Plant, located in in nearby Geismar,Louisiana is one of the largest producing Shell facilities in the world Located on the east bank of the Mississippi River, Shell’s Geismar manufacturing facility is 32 kilometres (20 miles) downriver from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA. Shell announced the purchase of the Geismar site, which had originally been part of the Ashland Plantation, in January 1965 and operations began in 1967. The Shell Geismar facility manufactures chemicals such as alcohols, ethoxylates, ethylene oxide, ethylene glycols and alpha olefins that form the basis of many everyday objects.



Medical

The city has a substantial medical research and clinical presence. Research hospitals have included Our Lady of the Lake, Our Lady of the Lake Children's Hospital (affiliated with St. Jude Children's Research Hospital), Mary Bird Perkins Cancer Center, and Earl K. Long (closed 2013). Together with an emerging medical corridor at Essen Lane, Summa Avenue and Bluebonnet Boulevard, Baton Rouge is developing a medical district expected to be similar to the Texas Medical Center. LSU and Tulane University have both announced plans to construct satellite medical campuses in Baton Rouge to partner with Our Lady of the Lake Medical Center and Baton Rouge General Medical Center, respectively.

Southeastern Louisiana University and Franciscan Missionaries of Our Lady University both have nursing schools in the medical district off Essen Lane. Louisiana State University's Pennington Biomedical Research Center, which conducts clinical and biological research, also contributes to research-related employment in the area around the Baton Rouge medical district. In addition Southern University also has a nursing school in the northern portion of the city.

Business

Baton Rouge is home to many growing business in manufacturing productivity. Brown and Root Industrial ,created in 2015 seems on pace to become the city's next major company. The city also houses private equity firms such as Bernhard Capital Partners. Companies with significant operations or headquarters in Baton Rouge are; Turner Industries, AT&T, Verizon Wireless,ExxonMobil, Our lady of the Lake, Blue Cross Blue Shield, Raising Canes, MMR Group, New York Life, Northwestern Mutual, CB&I, Mistras Group, Louisiana Seasoning, IBM, Eldorado Resorts,Brown and Root, Associated Grocers , Capital City Produce, Cajun Industries, The Lemoine Company, AWC Inc, Chase Bank, Cox Communications, Walk Ons, Wampold Companies , Bernhard LLC, Tonys Seafood, Postlewaite & Netterville,Stontrust, Community Coffee, Hollywood Gulf Coast,and Bank of America. The film industry in Louisiana has increased dramatically since the beginning of the 21st century, aided by generous tax incentives adopted by the state in 2002. In September 2013, the Baton Rouge Film Commission reported that the industry had brought more than $90 million into the local economy in 2013. Baton Rouge's largest production facility is the Celtic Media Centre, opened in 2006 by a local group in collaboration with Raleigh Studios of Los Angeles. Raleigh dropped its involvement in 2014.

Tourism

Being one of the largest industries and the fourth-largest employer in the state, Louisiana and the capital city of Baton Rouge depend on the travel and tourism industry’s ability to create jobs, stimulate economic recovery and drive needed tax revenue. Roughly four million people per year visit Baton rouge that $1.04 billion in total tax revenue in Louisiana. This created over 13,000 jobs with national conventions now booking the Raisin Canes River Center as a primary location for annual conventions.

State 

In addition to being the state capital and parish seat, the city is the home of Louisiana State University, which employs over 5,000 academic staff. One of the largest single employers in Baton Rouge is the state government, which consolidated all branches of state government downtown at the Capitol Park complex. The United States Government Federal Aviation Administration: Flight Standards District Office is located also within the city. The Federal Emergency Management Agency - Disaster Recovery Center is located in downtown Baton Rouge. Additionally Louisiana State University-Baton Rouge and Southern University-Baton Rouge are the only entities in the state to be granted access to grow and cultivate medical marijuana.

Sports
Though much of the professional sports teams are focused in New Orleans, the city has its own athletic culture. College sports play a major role in the culture of Baton Rouge. The LSU Tigers and the Southern University Jaguars are NCAA Division I athletic programs with the LSU Tigers football and Southern Jaguars football teams being the local college American football teams. Baton Rouge Community College is a member of the National Junior College Athletic Association (NJCAA). BRCC competes at the Division I level in four sports: baseball, men's basketball, women's basketball and softball. College baseball, basketball, and gymnastics are also popular.

Semi-Pro and Amateur sports
Baton Rouge has had multiple minor-league baseball teams, soccer teams, indoor football teams, a basketball team, and a hockey team. The Baton Rouge Rugby Football Club or Baton Rouge Redfish 7, which began playing in 1977, has won numerous conference championships. Currently, the team competes in the Deep South Rugby Football Union. It also has an Australian rules football team, the Baton Rouge Tigers, which began playing in 2004 and competes in the USAFL. The city is also home to Baton Rouge Rougarou, a baseball team that competes in the Texas Collegiate League.In addition, Baton Rouge is home to Red Stick Roller Derby, a WFTDA Division 3 roller derby league. Baton Rouge is also home to the Baton Rouge Soccer Club in the Gulf Coast Premier League. Baton Rouge has also played host city for the United States Bowling Congress Championships, US Youth Soccer Southern Regional Championship, The Special Olympics, and a route city for the 1996 Summer Olympic torch relay.

Special Sporting events include:

1995 - USATF Junior Olympic Cross Country Championships

1996 - Host City for USA Olympic Flame

1997 - USATF Junior Olympic Track & Field Championships

1997 - USA Olympic Baseball Exhibition USA vs. Australia

2001 - National Senior Games Association, Senior Olympics

2001 - USATF National Masters Outdoor Championships

2002 - NCAA Track & Field National Championships

2003 - SWAC Baseball & Softball Conference Championships

2005 - American Bowling Congress Open Championships

2006 - International Taekwondo Alliance National Championships

2007 - BMW USTA Sectional Combo Tennis Championships

2008 - BMW USTA Sectional Combo Tennis Championships

2009 - TNBA Southern Regional/Tournament

2009 - Southern Bowling Congress Handicap Tournament

2010 - US Youth Soccer Region III Championships

2011 - Tiger Rock Taekwondo World Championships

2012 - United States Bowling Congress Open Championships

2014 - US Youth Soccer Region III Championships

2016 - Tiger Rock Teakwondo World Championships

2017 - NCAA Women's Bowling Championships

2017 - USBC Women's Bowling Championships

LSU Tigers
Having the presence of Louisiana State University near the heart of downtown gives Baton Rouge a national spotlight. With an athletic program at the height of national competitiveness in football, baseball, softball men's and women's basketball, and many other sports, LSU is cemented as an important part of Baton Rouge's sports culture. The program has produced over 45 national championships, 3 being in football. This puts LSU as a top 10 sport program in country among Division 1 athletics. See LSU Tigers football for more on the football program and legacy.

SU Jaguars
As a premier HBCU sports program, Many South Louisianians support the athletic programs of the Southern University and A&M College known as the Southern Jaguars. The university is located in North Baton Rouge on Scott's Bluff. During the 2003 athletic year the Jaguars football team was named the Black College National Champions. The Jaguars compete in the FCS division of college football but do not compete in the playoffs due to their annual in state rivalry game with Grambling State University called the Bayou Classic. This is the longest running nationally televised HBCU football game held in New Orleans at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome. The game garners national attention and usually has an attendance between 50,000-70,000.

Racing
Greater Baton Rouge is home to State Capitol Raceway. The State Capitol Dragway is the 3rd oldest, continuously ran 1/4 mile dragstrip in the United States (over 35 years old). The last Dukes of Hazzard movie had scenes shot at State Capitol Raceway.

Louisiana Marathon
The annual Louisiana Marathon is held every January. The three day activities include a 5K, a quarter K, kids marathon, the half marathon, marathon, and festival expo. It is the largest multiple distance event expo in Louisiana. Bwash88 (talk) 01:24, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Baton Rouge, Louisiana
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Baton Rouge, Louisiana's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "USCensusEst2018": From Richmond, Virginia:  From Louisville, Kentucky:  

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Preferred Climate Units as Metric
This may be an unpopular opinion among my fellow American editors, but I believe we should consider notating Baton Rouge's climate data in Celsius with Fahrenheit as the secondary measurement. I believe this should be the case for a multitude of reasons, firstly being that the official stance of the U.S. Government's 1975 Metrication Act declared the United States' preferred measurement system to be metric. This also would not cause conflict with those who prefer Fahrenheit as it will still be available, and it will also help with consistency as far as unitary measurements go across Wikipedia. Smartie988 (talk) 02:08, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Crime
Where is the crime section? People have a right to know that Baton Rouge is a high crime city and probably one of the most dangerous places to live in the U.S.


 * As a Baton Rouge native who has lived here since I was born, this city is far safer than people would have you believe. Places like Tulsa, Oklahoma have a similar crime rate per 100,000 people. So, my argument is that if we add a section talking about crime, 90% of it is north of Florida Boulevard in the poor part of town, not due in small part to a racial divide that the city has been trying (and failing) to recover from since the 60's. That might need to be talked about as well. Baton Rouge is a very safe city during the day if you avoid a few sections north of Florida Boulevard. Smartie988 (talk) 16:26, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Article issues

 * The "External links" section of this article has 10 entries and a subsection. This typically is considered more than the usual three, maybe four, per WP:ELPOINTS #3, and possible in the middle of What Wikipedia is not. --  Otr500 (talk) 15:37, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree with you. Just being generous, the first two external links make sense. The 5th link is outright spam. The fourth link and the entire "Geology and geological hazards" subsection are at best citation sources, and should be used as such or removed. I'm going to proceed with deleting the 5th link, and leave the 4th and subsection links for the time being to see if someone repurposes them elsewhere in the article using cite template. WmLawson (talk) 21:17, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you -- Otr500 (talk) 10:08, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

More

 * I had added two separate entries both with reliable source's. One was reverted as PROMO. The reference was the regional brproud.com, affiliated with WVLA, NBC Local 33, and WGMB, Fox 44. Being regional stations with a large viewing audience, as well as a regional paper with a state online presence, and recognized as the news media outlet for information from The State Journal, the weekly "Official journal of the Parish of East Baton Rouge" I think there was an error in listing educational information with this form of sourcing as "PROMO". I can understand the idea that a charter school is a commercial endeavor. They are considered a "state" solution to an otherwise historical failing education system that in 2020 was ranked nationally at the bottom.
 * I have no desire to play into edit wars or run into quick blanket reversions by well-meaning "article protectors" when this, as well as a lack of apparent interest, fosters long-outdated content, resulting in a stale career C-class article. The article shows 1,852 editors and 237 watchers. I think positive collaboration could result in improvements here and on related articles. While the good old optional BRD has a clear place, ideas, intended directions, and even added content, can just as easily be discussed for improvement, replacement, or modifying, without the "option".
 * Looking into this, I found there are some issues with this article, other related articles that need reorganizing, and a better connection (linking) between them all. It also appears my reverted content could be better placed in a related article.
 * Article issues or concerns:


 * A quote in the "Colonial period" subsection that appears to be unsourced,
 * Various sentences ("Modern history" subsection, "Geography" section, etc...) that appear unsourced, possibly added after sourcing. It could just be citation misplacement.
 * A very large "Neighborhoods" subsection with the included "both inside and outside the city limits" and a "Main article": Neighborhoods of Baton Rouge, that I deemed could/should be trimmed. It is also totally unsourced has only one neighborhood source for a non-article.
 * Comments: The above-linked article is largely unsourced (see above) and unassessed. The subsection has 10 linked articles and around 99 89 unsourced entries. I would think trimming to leave the notable entries (linked to sourced articles) and moving the remaining, if there are sources, to "Neighborhoods of Baton Rouge". If no sourcing exists I would propose just deleting them. Any ideas or volunteers? -- Otr500 (talk) 13:04, 12 July 2021 (UTC)


 * This article has a "Main article" of Education in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. It should be noted that there is also East Baton Rouge Parish Public Schools (also called and referred to as "East Baton Rouge School Board" so should be in bold in the opening sentence) has redundant entries.
 * Outdated: The "Primary and secondary schools" subsection states, "The city of Baton Rouge is also home to 15 charter schools with a total enrollment of 3800 pupils", supported by a 2011 accessed source. By the start of the 2020-2021 school year currently (almost) shows "There are currently 27 charter schools operating in East Baton Rouge Parish. Collectively, they educate about 11,000 students." This Advocate article is dated Jun 6, 2020, and indicates that "Four more charter groups have applied to join them in opening charter schools in fall 2021." and "The parish School Board plans to vote on their applications at a special meeting on July 9 ." (2020). An Advocate article on Mar 21, 2021, reports 4 new charter schools for Baton Rouge focus on aviation, college prep, legal profession and that "These schools hope to educate about 800 students overall when the 2021-22 school year starts in August.", with a planned growth enrollment of "4,000 to 5,000 students from kindergarten to 12th grade."

Charter schools

 * Louisiana has been at the bottom of school rankings for a long time. In the seven years prior to 2012 there were 100 charter schools approved. A 2012 report "Call for Quality Schools" highlights issues and reasoning for seeking "high performing autonomous schools of choice".
 * Interesting information: The Louisiana Department of Education has oversight of the "Board of Elementary and Secondary Education" (BESE) -authorized Type 2 and type 5 charter schools.


 * Charter schools authorized by local school boards
 * Type 1: New school • Local school board authorized • 45 schools
 * Type 3: Conversion school • Local school board authorized • 15 schools
 * Type 3B: Former Type 5 charter school transferred from RSD back to local school system • 41 schools


 * Charter schools authorized by BESE
 * Type 2: New or conversion school • BESE authorized • 40 schools
 * Type 4: New or conversion school • Local school board & BESE authorized • 1 school
 * Type 5: Recovery School District schools • BESE-authorized • 5 schools
 * Looking around:
 * Some larger cities of Louisiana articles have an "Education" section that may include just Colleges and universities (Shreveport, Louisiana). The "Primary and secondary schools" subsections, such as New Orleans (with a See also: List of schools in New Orleans), Lake Charles, Louisiana, and Monroe, Louisiana has "Colleges and universities" and "High schools". Bossier City is inclusive of even elementary schools as an embedded list and has the stub class Bossier Parish Schools that has redundant entries.  --  Otr500 (talk) 12:32, 12 July 2021 (UTC)