Talk:Battle of Cádiz (1669)

Provenance of painting
User:Newsailormon and I are currently talking at that user's talk page about recent edits re: the provenance of the painting in the article, so I've walked back a few of the edits while we figure things out. I suspect we will eventually revise the article to state that the painting is by Monamy, since this is what more recent sources say (our sources which attribute it to either van de Velde are older and new information seems to have surfaced); however, the idea that the painting was modeled after the mezzotint is highly questionable at the least and I'd like to see the source for it, and it would also be nice to see if Michael S. Robinson, the source that Newsailormon has added, addresses the question of Kirkall's (the mezzotint artist's) attributing the painting he copied to van de Velde, because that seems useful information. Also, it would be interesting to find out how it was discovered that the painting was the work of Monamy (eg. were new techniques used to discover a signature that had previously been hidden?), though I admit that that may be too much detail for an article on a battle - the same way that the old GA review found that we need to cover the diplomatic expedition, but that there's too much on it to cover in this article! –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 03:43, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Having given it some more thought - it may be desirable to create an article on Morgan Kempthorne's battle. I imagine the RS coverage of it must exist, and that would allow us to divert the discussion of the provenance to that article since, after all, it is pretty well recognized by now not to depict the battle that is the subject of this article. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 21:47, 6 June 2013 (UTC)