Talk:Battle of Cedar Creek

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved, investigation of warring accounts underway.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:15, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Belle Grove → Battle of Cedar Creek – This article was incorrectly renamed after 10 years with the correct name. The National Park Service and virtually all current Civil War historians--see the titles in the References and Further Reading section--call it the Battle of Cedar Creek. Hal Jespersen (talk) 23:59, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

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 * I've moved it back to the stable version, which appears to be supported by reliable sources including the relevant preservation societies and the National Park Service. If the move war resumes, I suggest steeply escalating blocks, as there is no sign that either participant used this talkpage.  Acroterion   (talk)   01:55, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I further note that the warring accounts appear to be closely related, and they both have some explaining to do.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:13, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Is this a spill-over conflict from some Wikia wiki? .--Chaser (talk) 17:16, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Could be. They both registered at the same time and got autoconfirmed, then started with the edit war, and that comment is odd.  Acroterion   (talk)   17:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Request for comment
We have other two topics named "Battle of Cedar Creek": Battle of Cedar Creek (Jacksonville) and Battle of Cedar Creek (1876). Recently, I created Battle of Cedar Creek (disambiguation) just in case. This "Battle of Cedar Creek" topic discusses one of battles fought in Virginia in 1864 during the American Civil War. Is this topic primary per WP:primary topic? If not, how can you disambiguate this Virginia battle? --Gh87 in the public computer (talk) 20:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Is Battle of Cedar Creek primary per WP:primary topic?
 * Well, yes. Over 800 people were killed compared to less than 50 at Battle of Cedar Creek (Jacksonville) and fewer than 10 at Battle of Cedar Creek (1876).
 * The tag
 * would seem to eliminate the need for the Battle of Cedar Creek (disambiguation) page.
 * What I wonder is who is even going to see the page since when you search "Battle of Cedar Creek" you get this article, not the page. --BoogaLouie (talk) 15:01, 30 October 2014 (UTC) (editor randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:Battle of Cedar Creek)
 * I recommend that this article be renamed Battle of Cedar Creek (Shenandoah), and that the disambiguation page be made primary. The other two battles are sufficiently important that a disambiguation page seems better than disambiguating hatnotes.  This RFC will not be easy to close because it doesn't state a question and so doesn't have !votes.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:46, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The battle was also fought in other two counties. I'm thinking Battle of Cedar Creek (Virginia). --George Ho (talk) 18:37, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Based on page view statistics , more than 80% of readers are coming to and staying on this page. Checking What Links Here    also shows greater than 80% of links coming here. Based on the number of soldiers involved in each, I presume that this battle has the greatest significance in Sources. That covers all the bases on Determining_a_primary_topic. I'm not particularly opposed to a move, but my soft advice is to leave the page here. Alsee (talk) 23:01, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Based on page view statistics , more than 80% of readers are coming to and staying on this page. Checking What Links Here    also shows greater than 80% of links coming here. Based on the number of soldiers involved in each, I presume that this battle has the greatest significance in Sources. That covers all the bases on Determining_a_primary_topic. I'm not particularly opposed to a move, but my soft advice is to leave the page here. Alsee (talk) 23:01, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

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