Talk:Battle of Gettysburg

No mention of Camp Letterman
From the Camp Letterman page:

"In the aftermath [of Gettysburg], when Union military leaders realized that the farms, private homes, churches, and other buildings in and around the town of Gettysburg which had been pressed into service as makeshift regimental hospitals were so overwhelmed by the numbers of dying and wounded, and that many of the soldiers who had been unable to find shelter were being cared for in gardens and other outdoor spaces, they quickly secured approval from their superiors to create a new general hospital. Built sometime after July 8, 1863, it opened on July 22."

The Battle of Gettysburg page makes no mention of Camp Letterman. 50.221.62.202 (talk) 14:33, 3 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I will add this in the near future. The text on the aftermath needs to be changed a little more than just adding this. It now gives the impression that the citizens of Gettysburg were left alone to care for all the wounded. Even without Camp Letterman, this was not the situation although the residents of the area within about an 8 mile radius were somewhat overwhelmed. There are a couple of books which cover this in detail. The Camp Letterman article has long quotations that are not in keeping with Wikipedia style guidelines, even though they are apparently from public domain sources. So eventually that article also needs a little work from someone as well. Donner60 (talk) 01:31, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I can see that there needs to be a brief discussion about taking care of the wounded down in the casualties section. I think Camp Letterman should be mentioned, but it does not require a long discussion. It did not open until July 20 according to the American Battlefield Trust. TwoScars (talk) 19:56, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

"ending the Confederacy's aspirations to establish an independent nation"
Hi all, this line seems like a strange statement to make in the opening paragraphs, or at all. The war continues for 2 more years after this battle, if the confederacy no longer aspires to establish an independent nation at this point in the war what are they fighting for?

The reference seems to refer to this quote from the website "The loss there dashed the hopes of the Confederate States of America to become an independent nation."

Hard to know how much more I should say, hopes and aspirations are not necessarily exactly the same. Aspiration as a word, apparently, is related to desire. Where as hope is more contextual, can be related to desire or trust, confidence. Either way I would like to know what aspirations are driving the confederacy after this battle if not to establish an independent nation.

Also further into the article in the effects on the confederacy says "The immediate reaction of the Southern military and public sectors was that Gettysburg was a setback, not a disaster. "

As far a cry from ending all hope or aspirations for an independent nation as you can get I would say. Dont you think this article essentially contradicts itself with these statements?

Great article, sorry for not having a login or knowing how to edit or post to wiki.

Regards 2001:8003:6456:8300:50D3:868C:902E:C115 (talk) 08:36, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Spencer rifles at Gettysburg
According to official reports Col. John T Wilders brigade, were outfitted with Spencer rifles in the June 24th battle of Hoovers Gap Tn. So I would argue that it is entirely possible that some cavalry troops could and probably did have Spencer rifles. Fred Railling (talk) 16:30, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request, 13 February 2024
I think the following passage should be restored in the popular culture section:

"The south winning the Battle of Gettysburg is a popular premise for a point of divergence in American Civil War alternate histories. Here are some examples which either depict or make significant reference to an alternate Battle of Gettysburg (sometimes simply inserting fantasy or sci-fi elements in an account of the battle):

Novels: Bring the Jubilee by Ward Moore; If the South Had Won the Civil War by Mackinlay Kantor; Civil War Trilogy (Gettysburg, Grant Comes East, Never Call Retreat) by Newt Gingrich, William R. Forstchen, and Albert S. Hanser; Stonewall Jackson at Gettysburg by Douglas Lee Gibboney; By Force of Arms by Billy Bennett. Also: Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series has an analogous battle taking place at Camp Hill, another southeast Pennsylvania town. Short fiction: "If Lee Had NOT Won the Battle of Gettysburg" by Winston Churchill in If It Had Happened Otherwise and If, or History Rewritten, "Sidewise in Time" by Murray Leinster in various collections, "A Hard Day for Mother" by William R. Forstchen in Alternate Generals 1, "An Old Man's Summer" by Esther Friesner also in AG 1, "If the Lost Order Hadn't Been Lost" by James M. McPherson in What If? and What Ifs? of American History, "East of Appomattox" by Lee Allred in Alternate Generals"

The Battle of Gettysburg is indeed a popular POD in alternate history, so I do think it should be restored. -- 2804:29B8:5183:100C:997B:B4C6:8FC:6EC4 (talk) 03:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: In popular culture sections are intentionally kept short per WP:TRIVIA. HansVonStuttgart (talk) 07:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Adding to HansVonStuttgart who responded while I was typing (what are the odds on a month-old request?)
 * This text was removed because it did not cite any sources. If there are a couple particularly notable alternate histories it might be appropriate to cover them directly (with sources) rather than a list, but note that WP:MILPOP recommends only including works with a notable impact on popular culture. Jamedeus (talk) 07:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)