Talk:Battle of Kreminna

Second Battle of Kreminna
Though at this moment, the said event is yet to happen, but since Ukrainian forces recaptured Lyman, and it's widely believed that the next target for Ukrainian forces can be Kreminna, for actually Ukraine entered Siverskiy Donets Forest Park and successfully interdicted the road between Torske and Kreminna, and some claimed Ukrainian reconnaissance and sabotage forces can be seen near southern outskirts of Kreminna, therefore the 2nd battle of Kreminna can be added to this entry later once it starts. Bf0325 (talk) 23:20, 1 October 2022 (UTC)


 * For now this should be noted as "aftermath" Dawsongfg (talk) 02:14, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 27 January 2023

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. ErikHaugen (talk &#124; contribs) 18:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

– Second battle does not exist. Panam2014 (talk) 23:52, 27 January 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. echidnaLives  -  talk  -  edits  22:52, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * First Battle of Kreminna → Battle of Kreminna
 * Battle of Kreminna → delete to make way for page move
 * Note: pages with content are ineligible as new titles in move requests unless they, too, are proposed to be renamed or otherwise dispositioned. So Battle of Kreminna → delete to make way for page move was added to this request.  P.I. Ellsworth &thinsp;, ed.  put'r there 02:04, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * Leave as is it's 40 min drive from Lyman east to Kreminna, given that discussion of a second battle to retake the town exists as a topic in Ukrainian and Western media a forthcoming second battle exists as a subject in sources. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * we could not leave it, see Battle of the Svatove–Kreminna line Panam2014 (talk) 00:12, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Title, again
There is no article named "Second battle of Kreminna", and soon the article Svatove-Kreminna line - which is about a battle that has never actually reached Kreminna - is probably going to be moved to a title that doesn't even have "Kreminna" in the title. Shouldn't we move this back to Battle of Kreminna? Seems like there's nothing to disambiguate from. HappyWith (talk) 04:48, 31 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Could support this. Cinderella157 (talk) 06:11, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 8 September 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SilverLocust 💬 19:06, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

– There is no longer any article called "Second battle of Kreminna" or any variation on that. Hence, there is nothing to disambiguate from anymore. HappyWith (talk) 18:18, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * First battle of Kreminna → Battle of Kreminna
 * Battle of Kreminna → Deleted to make way for page move
 * Note: pages with content, such as Battle of Kreminna, are ineligible to be proposed titles in move requests unless they, too, are formally dispositioned. "Battle of Kreminna → Deleted to make way for page move" has been added to this request to meet that requirement.  P.I. Ellsworth &thinsp;, ed.  put'er there 03:12, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. It might be wise to add a header regarding post-October clashes near Kreminna linking to the Luhansk Oblast campaign as well. Jebiguess (talk) 23:43, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This kind of already exists in the article as "Aftermath". HappyWith (talk) 03:13, 9 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Support - nom say it all. Cinderella157 (talk) 09:57, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

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Merge proposal
I propose a merger of encyclopedic content from Battle of Kreminna into Battle of Donbas (2022). There is minimal substance to this article, and search engines return virtually no use of the term "Battle of Kreminna" outside of Wiki mirrors, so there is little basis for the 18-19 April events to comprise a standalone article. I also note that almost all the content here is already present in the Battle of Donbas article. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 05:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I concur. Cinderella157 (talk) 06:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Support None of the sources currently listed in the article refer to this as a battle. The only notable thing about the engagement seems to be that it was the first city to fall to Russia during the Battle of Donbas (2022), though I don't think this alone warrants a standalone article. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)