Talk:Battle of Lake Pontchartrain/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: MathewTownsend (talk · contribs) 01:22, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

I will start this review shortly. MathewTownsend (talk) 01:22, 18 January 2012 (UTC)


 * This article is very hard for me to understand because it deals so much in specifics. If the general reader is not already familiar, in depth, with the situation, then I believe it's hard to understand. I think it needs some general statements to set the stage now and then.
 * I think this is a well written article, but very dense. Some sentences are unclear.
 * lede
 * Not a summary of the article - it should orient the general reader to the overall picture and the general happenings and outcome.
 * "American Revolutionary War" ... here it should say who exactly the two parties fighting were. (This is a major point.)
 * "between" - the reader expects to learn "between who" instead of the two towns, although that is important too.
 * "Spanish-American crew" - meaning some Spanish citizens and some Americans?
 * Background
 * "quietly supported by the Spanish governors and often mediated by Oliver Pollock, a prominent New Orleans businessman." - not clear from this sentence what the significance of this is. - (later he is mentioned in another section and it turns out he has military power)
 * Prelude
 * "The boat never returned." Is the next sentence an explanation of what happened to the "boat"?
 * "Pollock had given command of the Morris to Continental Navy Captain William Pickles." - Pollock had this kind of power?
 * "Gálvez provided another ship for Pickles' use" - why him?
 * "Pollock instructed Pickles to harass British military shipping" - then Pollack again?
 * Maybe some explanation (somewhere - not necessarily here) how the French were involved?
 * References
 * should put {subscription only) after Oxford Dictionary of National Biography reference, JSTOR etc.
 * link to The Times-Picayune reference doesn't go to article put to current main page.


 * Thanks for your insightful comments. I think I've addressed your major points, except:
 * why Pickles: umm, because he has the commission, and his ship was destroyed? (Presumably Pollock was also involved in procuring the replacement ship, but this is to me a minor point.)
 * French involvement: I believe Rousseau was a French Louisianan. Even though Louisiana was under Spanish governance then, its population was mostly French.  France was not involved in events in this area.
 * The link to the Times-Picayune article worked once upon a time, but they seem to have dropped pre-2009 material. I've converted the citation to cite news.
 * -- Magic ♪piano 15:03, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

GA review-see WP:WIAGA for criteria (and here for what they are not)


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose: clear and concise, correct spelling and grammar:
 * All problems fixed!
 * B. Complies with MoS for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. Provides references to all sources:
 * B. Provides in-line citations from reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Main aspects are addressed:
 * Has placed the battle in context.
 * B. Remains focused:
 * 1) Does it follow the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Very nice article. Your clarifications helped greatly. Congratulations! MathewTownsend (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Very nice article. Your clarifications helped greatly. Congratulations! MathewTownsend (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Very nice article. Your clarifications helped greatly. Congratulations! MathewTownsend (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Very nice article. Your clarifications helped greatly. Congratulations! MathewTownsend (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Very nice article. Your clarifications helped greatly. Congratulations! MathewTownsend (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2012 (UTC)