Talk:Battle of Oranik (1456)

Date?
Our primary sources say that the battle occurred sometime in 1453, but Harry Hodgkinson says it happened the spring after the siege of Berat(which he gives as happening in July 1455). If anyone is willing to do some research on it, it would be greatly appreciated. --Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 04:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * What are the primary sources: Gennaro Francione? Where do you get this book anyways? Or are you referring to Becikemi & Barleti, on whose data is based Noli's book? --SulmuesLet's talk 00:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Some of Skanderbeg battles have taken place in same areas, eg. Pollog valley, this is somewhat confusing because another battle in Oranik is reported in 1447 or 1448. Aigest (talk) 07:36, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Franz Babinger in Mehmed the Conqueror and His Time, page 152, says that this battle happened in March 1456.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:17, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Oranik vs Oronik
The place of the battle is called Oranik not Oronik. Needs change Aigest (talk) 13:58, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * According to the History of the Albanian People version of 2002 it's Oranik, indeed. Publications of the 1980s gave Oronik. --SulmuesLet's talk 22:11, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Even Noli says Oranik. We should change it Aigest (talk) 22:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC) ✅. Moved the page to Oranik --SulmuesLet's talk 23:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Where is Oranik?
Athanase Gegaj says that: Oranik, dans la Dibra supérieure. which is upper Debar or Macedonia. If I am not wrong the location of Oranik should be changed to Macedonia.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:51, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There are many other sources which confirm that Oronik/Oranik is actually Debar:


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