Talk:Battle of Pombal

Result parameter
There seems to be ongoing discussion about the. It’s probably best to go with the MOS and keep the parameter empty, but opening for discussionPipsally (talk) 19:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I am taking it to talk, to properly argument the results of the battles of Pombal and Redinha. The most important thing who i have to say is who the sources cited imply a French victory.Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 19:44, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Source about the battle of Pombal.

"On this day Reynier and the 2nd Corps, far off on the eastern mountain road, reached Espinhal, the first village beyond the Serra da Estrella. As that place has a by-road leading to Coimbra, this detached body was getting nearer to a possible reunion with the main body. On the morning of March 11th the 3rd Division joined Wellington's vanguard after a toilsome march, and the 4th Division, heading the column which came from Thomar, was reported to be in supporting distance. Ney, apparently having detected the arrival of British reinforcements, then drew back one of his divisions, and left the other (Mermet) in position on the heights behind the town, with a single battalion holding the lofty but ruined castle which dominates the place. Wellington, on perceiving that the enemy was drawing back, ordered Elder's battalion of Cacadores J, supported by two companies of the 95th Rifles, to charge across the bridge and occupy the town, while the rest of the Light Division advanced in support, and Picton moved to the left, to cross the stream lower down. The attacking force passed the narrow bridge under fire, cleared the nearer streets and assailed the castle and the small force left there. Seeing his rearguard in danger of being cut off, and noting that Elder's force was small, Ney came down from the heights with four battalions of the 6th Leger and the 69th Ligne, thrust back the Cacadores and the supporting rifle com- panies, and brought off the troops in the castle. He barricaded the main street, and set fire to the houses along it in several places before departing."

Sources about the inmediate outcome of the action.

"By the time that the Light Division had disentangled itself from the burning town, and Picton had crossed the stream on the left, the day was far spent ; and Ney retired at his leisure after dark, without having been further incommoded."

Here is the Pombal sourceNuevousuario1011 (talk) 19:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Remember who the French army in general was retreating, thus Ney retreat to join the main body is not a defeat, but the British failed at cutting him off. Besides the "strategic level" on the "tactical level" Ney won the battle.Nuevousuario1011 (talk) 20:00, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Please let me know what you think and if you recived it and why i shouldn't change it, regardsNuevousuario1011 (talk) 20:08, 26 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The reference (Oman) says nothing about a French victory. FDW777 (talk) 18:41, 27 June 2021 (UTC)