Talk:Battle of Tsushima/Archive 2

Route of Russian fleet
The chart showing the routes of Russian ships was tagged "dubious - discuss" back in August 2013 by User:Soerfm as "Key is missing and route seems to contradict claim about Russians not being allowed to use Suez channel", though it wasn't actually raised on the talk page. It is indeed unfortunate that the Wikimedia image has no legend (and the originator Tosaka has no talk page). However it is present in the [|Russian WP aticle on the 2nd Pacific Fleet]. I have added it ad interim. That doesn't resolve the apparent conflict with the statement that Suez was barred. According to RuWP, much of the 2nd Pacific fleet (including the Navarinos, was detached and taken by Admiral Felkerzama via Suez to the rendezvous in Madagascar; Dobrotvorskiy's "catch-up squadron" included of two protected cruisers three auxiliary cruisers and five destroyers; Nebogatov's squadron consisted of an old battleship, coastal defense battleships and an old cruiser. Perhaps the (unreferenced) alleged barring of the use of Suez was for certain vessels only? (Sorry, but I do not have the means to clarify this further.) Davidships (talk) 12:59, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * —Thanks, I will make a note that the key issue is solved. Soerfm (talk) 12:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Nonsense in the Lede
"Although both sides had early wireless telegraphy, the Russians were using German sets and had difficulties in their use and maintenance, while the Japanese had the advantage of using their own equipment."

That implies that the Japanese officers and/or radio operator built their radios themselves ("own equipment"), which is almost certainly not the case. They simply were better educated in their use. Both Japanese and Russian equipment was built in some factory by people other than the radio operators.

The sentence is nonsense.-217.248.0.104 (talk) 22:32, 13 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I hate the word lede. It's one of those show-offy words that students use. Like protagonist. Your criticism is no good. It's an absurdly literal reading of the sentence. You might as well argue that the combatants weren't sides, they were three-dimensional shapes. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 19:22, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Units of measurement
The use of units in this article is a mess. Referring to yards, miles, nautical miles and so on. Neither Japan nor Russia had completed metrication at this time, but neither used Imperial units, so the only measurement units that makes sense is SI, or perhaps nautical miles since this is a maritime article. If the unit is nautical miles, please use nm rather than miles. BFG (talk) 09:03, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Russian casualties
The number of the dead is for the first day only; there also were a night action and than a day action next day. Overall, more than 5000 dead and some 800 wounded. Let me find a source, and I'll fix it. Mudriy zmei (talk) 15:28, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Battleships: The Duel of Kings
The difference between battleship fleet admirals and lesser naval admirals is that battleship admirals represented "their" countries; hence the title, "Capital" ships. When Rozhestvensky battled Togo in the Tsushima Straits that day in 1905, the sea engagement was not between the Russian Navy and the Japanese Navy; the battle was actually between the Russian Czar and the Japanese Emperor, with Rozhestvensky and Togo acting as surrogates for their respective "Kings" (figuratively). The same held true for Jutland in 1916, Scheer and Jellicoe represented their nations, and Jutland was actually fought between the "King" of England (or Prime Minister) and the German Kaiser; with Jellicoe and Scheer acting on their behalf. As Churchill said, "...Jellicoe was the only man who could lose the war in an afternoon!" He didn't say that about one his generals, armies can be raised in 90 days (just draft the men and hand them a pitch-fork/bayonet/or rifle), but it takes 3 years to build a battleship (Dreadnought was an exception being built within one year).

This is the difference between battleship fleet actions and lesser naval actions.
 * And Wiki works off Reliable Sources, not a person's personal viewpoints. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.1.254 (talk) 02:01, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Regarding proper illumination
The Hospitalship Orel had its credentials/emblems illumminated in accordance to international regulations. How many hours of the day is such illumination required? --Stat-ist-ikk (talk) 22:22, 11 April 2021 (UTC)