Talk:Battle of Vitoria

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Where are the references for the numbers and casualties on the Allied side? The Allied strength of 105,000 is very misleading as is the casualty count. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.50.47 (talk) 23:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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Trivium: This battle was the incentive for Beethoven's Opus 91, known in English variously as "The Battle of Vitoria" or "Wellington's Victory". (I can't look up the actual name right now because my Beethoven Bicentennial Collection LPs are packed away and difficult to retrieve.)

At any rate, I'm putting this here because I don't know whether everyone thinks this kind of cultural tie-in is relevant for the battle articles. (I think so, but I'll defer to the people who have been here longer.) -- B.Bryant

I'm new here too, but for what it's worth, my feeling is that this is not really appropriate to an entry on the battle, but would be appropriate to an entry on the music. Simarly, an entry on the Eroica Symphony or Picasso's Gurnecia could, and probably should, refer to (respectively) Napoleon or the air raids during the Spanish Civil war. No doubt someone else will be able to express this more fluently, but I think of it this way: someone interested in understanding the battle probably doesn't need to know about a piece of music that happened to be inspired by it, but someone interested in the music probably is interested in the events that led up to the composition. Tannin


 * No, it's perfectly appropriate to indicate the wider cultural importance of one thing by saying what it inspired. If there is a different article on that piece of music per se, then most of the information can be put there, but there ought to be at least a link here!

References, Gates?
Gates, who? I thought Gates meant Gates, David. The Spanish Ulcer: A History of the Peninsular War. Da Capo Press 2001. ISBN 0-306-81083-2. However, the page numbers in the citations do not match any info in the book. What reference is 'Gates'? Bryson { Talk } { Edits } 15:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Weird. The first note should read p.390, not 391. The second is page 521, not 521-522. Thanks for catching that. Albrecht 16:24, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the fast reply, I added that title as a reference. Bryson { Talk } { Edits } 16:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Village of Gamarra-Mayor
The article seems to lack reference to the important action at Gamarra-Mayor (e.g., see Frederick_Philipse_Robinson. Can anyone help? Deet (talk) 03:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Number of guns?
According to the stats box, the French had 138 guns - according to the "Battle in a nutshell" section 158 were captured... quite impressive, but presumably one is inaccurate? Anyone? Audigex (talk) 03:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It is pretty clear that all the French guns were captured - Glover says that one field gun and one howitzer left with the French army, and the field gun was captured three days later. There is dispute in the sources about the exact number of French guns, but 151 seems a reasonable number (being 16 batteries of 9 guns), so using 151 as the total of guns and the number of guns captured is probably fair enough. Ctgnz (talk) 20:07, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

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Map
Where is Vitoria? I think a decent map of the area is required.

Any offers?

RASAM (talk) 15:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)