Talk:Battle of Winchelsea/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: LeGabrie (talk · contribs) 20:19, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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Discussion
I will give it a shot. LeGabrie (talk) 20:19, 3 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Images. You are quite right, it needs more images. I have no idea why I didn't see that. Thanks. Sadly there is no map from 1350 available. Anyway, the situation was so fluid that it may be confusing anyway. I have added one from the start of the war which shows the position of Gascony. And another image which seems relevant. What do you think?
 * I have also expanded the aftermath a bit, to follow up the key characters. (Referencing is ongoing.) Gog the Mild (talk) 15:48, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Excellent, the new images fit and enhance the article very well. I left a comment concerning the focus of the article. LeGabrie (talk) 16:54, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, possibly. OK, definitely. I have trimmed. What do you think? Gog the Mild (talk) 17:14, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Better, though I wouldn't delete the third paragraph entirely. I would keep a trimmed version of it and add it to the second paragraph. Perhaps something like this:


 * "After the English defeated the French at Crécy and conquered the major port city of Calais, fighting was limited to raids and guerrilla warfare." LeGabrie (talk) 17:54, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Like this? Gog the Mild (talk) 18:06, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations, yet another green plus in your wide collection. LeGabrie (talk) 18:26, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Edit: One more thing I just noticed is that in the lede it says "In spite of this success English trade and ports had little respite from French, and French sponsored, naval activity." Can you also include this info in the main text? LeGabrie (talk) 18:34, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Something like:
 * "Joined by French ships they continued to harass English shipping for the rest of the autumn before withdrawing to Sluys to winter. The following spring the Channel was still effectively closed to English shipping unless strongly escorted... [the battle's] lack of effect on the operational or strategic situation."
 * Which is already there . In the Aftermath. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Did the closure of the Channel also affect the trade with Gascony? LeGabrie (talk) 18:49, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * D'oh! I see what you mean. Very good point. I am glad that you are on the ball. How's this? Gog the Mild (talk) 19:01, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Very good. I think I am done now. LeGabrie (talk) 19:10, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I appreciate your work on this. I had thought that the article was in pretty good shape. Which just goes to show that you should never trust your own judgement of your writing. You picked up several things which definitely needed improving. Thanks again. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:14, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The article still isn't listed as GA. Seems like I missed a step after putting the "y" into "Result"? LeGabrie (talk) 12:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

No, you did that fine. What to do is explained here. Let me know if you would like me to do it for you. (I remember the first time I passed a GAN it took me several attempts to get it right.) Gog the Mild (talk) 14:56, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. LeGabrie (talk) 15:42, 5 November 2018 (UTC)