Talk:Battle of Zabadani (2012)

POV pushing
A user is trying very hard to change the outcome of the battle from a Syrian Army to a rebel victory based on a source saying that Zabadani is cut off by the army. This is POV pushing, original search and unsourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AsNero444 (talk • contribs) 04:37, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope. Sourced. Its not original research, its just a fact. Not POV pushing either. Also you are a sockpuppet of ChronicalUsual. http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-clashes-spill-across-lebanon-100504360.html Sopher99 (talk) 04:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely unsourced. Your additions are:

1) Battle ongoing  ===> Unsourced, some people are reported killed? Not enough to say battle reopened 2) FSA victory ===> Unsourced 3) Army repuslsed from the city? Unsourced, original search

You have 0 source and just a baseless accusation to throw at me for justify your POV pushing. You seem desperate to create a "FSA victory" because what happen in reality is not making you happy. Unforutenately, Wikipedia is not your fantasm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AsNero444 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I never said FSA victory. Also www.firstpost.com/topic/place/syria-syria-zabadani-and-madaya-surrounded-cut-off-starved-by-video-X2b8BbwvjhE-15-1.html Sopher99 (talk) 04:44, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

The video shows the army in the city and you are basing your claims on this video and on the little text aside saying that the cities are sealed off to write that the army has been repulsed from the city and that the battle is ongoing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AsNero444 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Hezbollah involvement in fighting
The Times article at the end clearly states that according to Syrian ally Iran that Hezbollah was involved in the combat in Zabadani:


 * "Al-Arabiya television quoted a top Iranian Revolutionary Guard official this week as saying that Hezbollah forces took part in recent fighting in Zabadani near Damascus, which had been taken over by the Free Syrian Army"

The quote above is quite clear and therefore Hezbollah has been reincluded as a combatant in the fighting in Zabadani. Guest2625 (talk) 03:51, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * unless hezbollah themselves say they are involved in this battle we cant take the word of Iranian guards and until other sources like press tv picks it up not just al arabiya this info is not to be taken seriously. al arabiyah can not have news about hezbollah that press tv has missed out on so either the officials words were taken out of context or this is another media lie Baboon43 (talk) 02:27, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't understand your reasoning that Hezbollah can't be a combatant unless they admit they were a combatant. If this were a criteria for including combatants in battles then truth could simply be denied by having a belligerent claim they weren't involved in a fight even though reliable sources say otherwise. That Hezbollah was involved in the battle is backed up quite clearly by reliable sources. The truth simply cannot be denied because one party to the conflict wants to change reality to their liking. Guest2625 (talk) 06:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Time for an update?
As of today, July 7, 2015, the Heroes of Hezbollah and Syrian Arab Army have liberated Zabadani and are cleansing it from terrorist remnants, so an update is maybe in order... 212.181.160.22 (talk) 23:26, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

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