Talk:Battle of the Rice Boats/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Xtzou ( Talk ) 18:37, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I am reviewing this article and will add comments below.

Final GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * The pose needs some work in areas, e.g.
 * "The Battle of the Rice Boats (sometimes called the Battle of Yamacraw Bluff) was a battle of the American Revolutionary War that took place in the Savannah River on the border between the Province of Georgia and the Province of South Carolina. The battle, which pitted colonial Patriot militia against the Royal Navy, took place on March 2 and 3, 1776." - uses "took place" in two sentences in a row
 * "The conflict reached a crisis point when British men of war" - I am not sure about this. Is is "men of war" or man-of-wars? (I have just never heard the former.)
 * "On March 1, Scarborough, Tamar, Cherokee, and Hinchinbrook sailed up the Savannah River to Five-Fathom Hole, accompanying the two transports, which carried two to three hundred men under the command of Major James Grant" - does this mean two to three hundred in each transport or altogether?
 * Per WP:LEAD, the lead should be a concise summary of the article, but contain no information that is not in the article. Much of the article is not covered in the lead. Also, the lead gives an overview that is not in the article.
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * The article could do a better job of setting up the overall context of the battle, for those not familiar with the Revolutionary War.
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * NPOV
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars etc.:
 * Stable
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * I wish the article had a map that showed the location of the battle from a wider context, from the point of view of the 13 colonies. The map has such a narrow focus.
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass
 * I will put the article on hold for seven days while you address these issues. I will also continue to proof read the article. It is a fine article and should have no problems becoming a GA. Xtzou ( Talk ) 18:37, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I will put the article on hold for seven days while you address these issues. I will also continue to proof read the article. It is a fine article and should have no problems becoming a GA. Xtzou ( Talk ) 18:37, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your detailed comments; I'll work on these over the next few days.  Magic ♪piano 20:07, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I think I've addressed most of your concerns, except for the lead. What is there in the lead that is not in the article, and which major points of the article do you think should be reflected in the lead?  I can certainly make the lead longer, but it seemed to me that a lead of 3 paragraphs was adequate for an article of this length.  (I will also look for a suitable "Thirteen Colonies" map to include here.)  Magic ♪piano 21:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay. Perhaps you are right about the lead. I will read through it again. On the whole, I think it is a fine article. Xtzou ( Talk ) 21:28, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
 * This is a very nice article. I hope you can get a better map. In the meantime it is fine. Wow, things were certainly dastardly in those days. Xtzou ( Talk ) 22:00, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance: }
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused: }
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Congratulations! Very nice article. Xtzou ( Talk ) 22:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  Magic ♪piano 01:38, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Congratulations! Very nice article. Xtzou ( Talk ) 22:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  Magic ♪piano 01:38, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Congratulations! Very nice article. Xtzou ( Talk ) 22:05, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  Magic ♪piano 01:38, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  Magic ♪piano 01:38, 19 April 2010 (UTC)