Talk:Battles of Barfleur and La Hougue

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Old & New style dates
Probably this template should be used: Template:OldStyleDate   Lateg (talk) 23:04, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Article needs to be compatible with Action at Barfleur. Suggest it's easier to change Barfleur to suit as its one date. These dates need to be used at the two ''Commons pages too. Broichmore (talk) 17:04, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Battles need to be split
Is it possible to be brave and define a start date for the Battle of La Hougue, so we can differentiate the whole host of artwork available on Commons which are in separate folders for this sprawling event. Are we saying (giving some emphasis in the article) that it includes the whole pursuit starting on 20 May (OS) (30 May (NS)) or later? Broichmore (talk) 17:28, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, the spelling "la Hogue" is wrong, the place was and is called la Hougue (Saint-Vaast-la-Hougue). There is no la Hogue in Northern Cotentin, all the la Hogue are located further south or further east. Nortmannus (talk) 08:44, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Order of battle
I think that the article would work better if the order of battle at the bottom were to be moved to a separate article. This seems to be standard these days. Does anyone have a view on this? Gog the Mild (talk) 15:00, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes or there could be a 'pull down' like this


 * That's perfect now. Thanks! Eastfarthingan (talk) 20:02, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

The order of battle was removed by User:Jay D. Easy with Revision 16:57, 3 June 2019‎ with the comment "i hate hate hate everything about this article: fixed sloppy refs, fixed gross abuse of infobox, minor fixes throughout". Personally I would have commented differently as the edit reduced the the size of the article by −8,767 bytes or by about a third. However the biggest deletion was the order of battle which was not adequately sourced and under WP:CHALLENGE User:Jay D. Easy's edit was within guidence. I am going to reproducd the deleted table here so that anyone can add sources and meet the challange. I suggest that if someone wishes to do so they should seek a consensus here as to whether to reinstate it here or in a new order of battle article. — PBS (talk) 17:11, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for tagging me, . I apologize for my edit summary at the time. This was back when I still tried to spice up my edit summaries with a little humor and bluntness. As you can tell, I frequently failed to hit the mark. So to clarify, my edit summaries have been brought to the admins' attention on multiple ocassions, and in all honesty, I was lucky to get away with just a month-long block. Also, looking back at my edit now I feel that I may have been a little excessive in my attempt to streamline the article. I have no problem with reinstating the order of battle at all! I believe what motivated me at the time to remove it was its excessive styling, and as such, its perceived incompatibility with MOS. Take care! Jay D. Easy (t&#8202;•&#8202;c) 17:48, 15 October 2021 (UTC)


 * England: 56 ships
 * Netherlands: 26 ships
 * Total allied: 82 ships, plus auxiliaries
 * France: 44 ships, plus auxiliaries

BTW the former order of battle was in a collapsed box in article space. This was a breach of the and Accessibility guidelines; so I think if it is to be restored it should be placed in a separate order of battle article per Summary style. NB if this is done to meet copyright needs it is important that the new article states that this text was copied from Revision as of 16:46, 30 January 2019 (oldid=880968352) of Battles of Barfleur and La Houguearticle (WP:CWW). -- PBS (talk) 17:11, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Nomenclature for eliminated ships
Under Casualties and Losses, French lost ships are described as "destroyed", while Anglo-Dutch ships are described in one case as "sunk" and in another as "destroyed". Is there a good reason for a difference in nomenclature here? Maabonnet (talk) 17:02, 17 October 2022 (UTC)