Talk:Bayard Rustin Educational Complex

Informative links
The link to the article at insideschools.org was restored. Its removal was not explained.Gogue2 (talk) 11:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Future move of this article
The High School for the Humanities is being closed down, and will graduate its last class in June 2012. After that happens, the article should be rewritten somewhat and moved to Bayard Rustin Educational Complex, as the building will continue as the site for a number of smaller schools. I've placed a hidden comment to this effect at the top of the article text. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. -- Hadal (talk) 05:06, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Bayard Rustin High School for the Humanities → Bayard Rustin Educational Complex – As per the note above, the NYC Department of Education now uses this name to refer to this facility, see here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)


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Article has been reverted to name of original article
The school at the close of 2011-2012 will be a defunct school. Already, the school building contains several different schools that have no relation to each other. Upon late June, 2012 this article will be irrelevant, as there will be no Bayard Educational Complex, merely the different schools that occupy the building. This is much like dozens of schools from the Bronx to Brooklyn. The tradition is established in wikipedia: defunct school -> so identified in wikipedia.

When the school is closed down it retains none of the character or institutional history of the prior school. It is misleading to name an article that is about a school, historically, with a moniker that merely relates the shell, Bayard Rustin Educational Complex.Gogue2 (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have reverted your move, as it was not well thought out. First, the high school still exists: it will graduate its last class this year.  Second, the change in status of the building is well covered in the article.  Third, once the high school closes down, the article simply needs to be re-written to change its focus, not moved, since an separate article on a defunct high school is not necesssary. Please do not move the article again without first discussing it here and getting a consensus for the move. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:08, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Your move is at variance with established wikipedia tradition.

Look at the comparable defunct institutions. Namely, see the articles for the defunct high schools of New York City. Category:Defunct high schools in New York City

The school already is no longer a comprehensive high school, what High School for the Humanities, and then the Bayard Rusting High School for the Humanities was. A comprehensive high school has multiple languages taught, many arts and English electives.

As to "Second, the change in status of the building is well covered in the article. Third, once the high school closes down, the article simply needs to be re-written to change its focus, not moved, since an separate article on a defunct high school is not necesssary.", the entire character of the school is erased upon the step that you laid out in "Third." It is inappropriate and highly misleading to preserve an article on Bayard Rustin High School for the Humanities once the school is shut down. The school is more than the physical building, which is all that remains.

You are confusing the physical building as being identical to the institution. The school is an institution having a history and a culture of administrators, staff and students. A building does not have that. Your move to preserve the school does not match the reality. Again, please view the Defunct high schools category to see the wikipedia precedence. Lastly, you have not given adequate reason to replace the longer serving name of the school, with the recent BREC name, which has only been in place since 2005.Gogue2 (talk) 22:09, 24 March 2012 (UTC) Again, see Category:Defunct high schools in New York City The link did not quite come through in the edit.Gogue2 (talk) 22:10, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is the URL for the link, as the brackets do not make the link connection. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Defunct_high_schools_in_New_York_City Gogue2 (talk) 22:12, 24 March 2012 (UTC)