Talk:Bayswater, Western Australia/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 07:46, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Starts Good Article Review Page. Hopefully we will start the review shortly. --Whiteguru (talk) 07:46, 24 June 2021 (UTC) 

Observations

 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * HTML document size: 308 kB
 * Prose size (including all HTML code): 74 kB
 * References (including all HTML code): 145 kB
 * Wiki text: 103 kB
 * Consider the rule of thumb given in WP:SIZERULE
 * Consider Balcatta, Booragoon, Canning Vale, Cannington, Forrestfield, Osborne Park, Willetton, These are all inner suburbs of Perth. These pages do not have any similar extensive history for the early settlement of the inner suburbs of Perth.
 * Compared to the History of (chosen at random) of these suburbs Balga,Bassendean, City Beach, Cottesloe, Freemantle, Guildford, Innaloo, Jindalee, Kewdale, Leederville, Mount Hawthorn, Nedlands, Redcliffe, Scarborough, South Guildford, Thornlie, Welshpool and Wilson, the history section of this article is both over large and over extended. It relies principally on one source, and we have to assume good faith as the source is not accessible. (That is not a complaint.) The only suburb that has any comparable history is Thornlie. Freemantle, the port, has an audaciously short page for a suburb of Perth.
 * European colonisation has 5 paragraphs and one quote;
 * Initial development in the 1880's has 6 paragraphs and one quote;
 * New services in the 1890's has 4 paragraphs;
 * After Federation has 7 paragraphs
 * Post World War II has 6 paragraphs
 * 21st century has 2 paragraphs. 
 * This article may benefit if the sections Initial development, After Federation and Post World War II were truncated to 4 paragraphs each. 
 * Given the history of floods in the region, the Geography section provides good coverage of drainage issues.
 * Reference 76 goes to the Albany Electoral District?
 * Nonetheless, good work on the design and layout of the Polling results for State and Federal seats.


 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * The History section relies on a single source.
 * Heading "After Federation" does not need to be a link; remove the link and place a hatnote, see also Federation
 * Reference 33 is a dead link. Use the Wayback Machine


 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * In the Governance section, it might be best to link to City of Bayswater's "Elected Members" page. (What to do when the elected councillors change?)
 * Are there any references available for the two railway proposals vis-a-vis Bayswater as a junction for new lines?


 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:


 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * Page created 14 November 2006
 * Prose size (including all HTML code): 74 kB
 * References (including all HTML code): 145 kB
 * Prose size (text only): 44 kB (7468 words) "readable prose size"
 * Page has 191 edits by 67 editors and currently has status.
 * 90 day page views = 1,838 views with a daily average of 20
 * 131 pages link to this page; there are 199 external links from this page.
 * examination of page history reveals steady improvement and nil edit warring.
 * Page is considered stable.


 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * Page has 16 images.
 * File:King William Street from Bayswater Bridge 1.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
 * File:Metropolitan Perth.svg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 Generic license.
 * File:Ribbon grants of the Bayswater area, Swan River Colony.png = is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1926.
 * File:Bayswater Estate advertisement in The Daily News.png = is of Australian origin and is now in the public domain because its term of copyright has expired. According to the Australian Copyright Council (ACC), ACC Information Sheet G023v17 (Duration of copyright)
 * File:McLeish's Store, Bayswater, 1905.jpg = is of Australian origin and is now in the public domain because its term of copyright has expired. According to the Australian Copyright Council (ACC), ACC Information Sheet G023v17 (Duration of copyright)
 * File:Meltham Heights townsite map.png = is of Australian origin and is now in the public domain because its term of copyright has expired. According to the Australian Copyright Council (ACC), ACC Information Sheet G023v17 (Duration of copyright)
 * File:Bayswater Post Office, 1942.jpg = is of Australian origin and is now in the public domain because its term of copyright has expired. According to the Australian Copyright Council (ACC), ACC Information Sheet G023v17 (Duration of copyright)
 * File:E37 King William Street shops near Bayswater Subway (October 2020).JPG = Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication.
 * File:Bayswater, Western Australia map.png = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
 * File:A.P. Hinds Reserve 02.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
 * File:Bayswater Russian Orthodox Church 1.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
 * File:E37 Bayswater Library from west (October 2020).JPG = Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication.
 * File:E37 War memorial at Ben Wright Park (from south-west).JPG = Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication.
 * File:Bayswater Primary School 03.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
 * File:Hillcrest Primary School administation from Bay View Street 2.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
 * File:Meltham railway station from footbridge 2.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license
 * File:May Street Bayswater Bike Boulevard 4.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.


 * 1) Overall:
 * A most comprehensive (if not the most comprehensive) history of the origins and development of a suburb of Perth and the genesis of a local government authority battling with floods, inundations and uneven development of housing, industry and education, along with serious erosion on the riverbank. A very well written article.
 * That said, the history sections are long in the tooth and some truncation has been recommended. Other minor issues may be resolved quickly.
 * Happy to discuss issues raised. --Whiteguru (talk) 08:24, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Steelkamp (talk) 10:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I will crack on with the history section soon. I aim to get it down to slightly longer than Hamersley, Western Australia (a featured article), as Bayswater has existed for longer than Hamersley.
 * Reference 76 covers all electoral districts in WA. Scroll down. The 2001 state election doesn't have results on a webpage like the more recent elections.
 * I have put in a new link for reference 33 that isn't dead. Annoying that that website seems to change its url every year.
 * For the local government section, I put the year of expiry for each councillor's term.
 * Added references for the train section. I can't believe I didn't realise that paragraph had no references before.

Steelkamp (talk) 16:04, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I have now cut down the history section. I've cut down the section on European colonisation considerably instead of the other sections as I decided it had the least important information in it. Each section has had paragraphs trimmed.
 * Thank you for your edits. Very pleasing work. It's a good read, this article. --Whiteguru (talk) 01:02, 28 June 2021 (UTC)