Talk:Be'er Tuvia

Wrong name
The name of the settlement is Be'er Toviyya with an O, not with a U.--128.139.104.49 (talk) 16:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * O, ye? Any reference? Shmuliko (talk) 23:16, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The article makes that clear. The article title shouldn't reflect the correct name, only the most common name if there is one. Right after that it clearly states that the correct transliteration is Be'er Toviya per WP:HE. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 05:01, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Original name is precise?
An article on the history of Be'er Tuvia in the Palestine Post (October 22, 1937) gives the original name as Kastinia (not Kastina). There's no doubt the Arab village (3-4 km away) was called Kastina, but maybe the moshava's name was slightly different? (On the other hand, the JP article states that the name was changed to Be'er Tuvia when the place was re-established in 1930, which can't be right as the 1922 census listed it as Be'er Tuvia (pop 112).) The Routledge Atlas of Jewish History and this article also write Kastinia. Trying to find an earlier source, I see Israel Cohen, Zionist Work in Palestine (published by Zionist Central Office, 1911) writes Kastinié repeatedly (and dates the establishment to 1896 by the Odessa Committee, with some details, page 165); and Bentwich, Palestine of the Jews, 1911, has Kastinie. Maybe the issue is about the transliteration from Russian. Even earlier, the Jewish Encyclopedia (1902-6) says "In 1888 Baron de Rothschild bought 640 hectares (1,580 acres) of land in Kastinje (El-Kastine) from some Bessarabian Jews, and founded the colony known as Beer-Tobiah." Zerotalk 13:39, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems like a transliteration problem to me; According to Zev Vilnay in the Ariel Encyclopedia, people who toured the area wrote about Kastina (קסטינה) or Kostina (קוסטינה). The name Be'er Tuvia was first mentioned in 1889, and as the article says, it's derived from the Arabic name for the local well, Bir Tabya. —Ynhockey (Talk) 04:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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