Talk:Beast (video game)

Perhaps, there is a little inaccuracy: In my version it is not possible to crush a beast between a wall and another beast <>WHH

Another interesting thing: I tried to prevent a hatched beast from moving (not easy but possible), but, surprisingly, it didn't explode.

Note there is a two player mode as well.

I did a little disassembly and created a version which can be set to work with a modern PC - ask for it here: maxplanck herecomesat seznam herecomesdot cz 88.101.32.104 21:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Does the source code for this game exist anywhere? One thing that's frustrated me about it when playing 2-player is that the "pull" modifier (spacebar) applies to both people, which can cause all kinds of trouble. Jurgen Hissen 19:33, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I wrote this game a very long time ago, and I don't even have the original source code (written in IBM-PC Macro Assembly, or MASM). Danbaker1962 (talk) 21:40, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I remember this game may have been also included in either WordPerfect Library, AT&T 6300 system software, R:Base or MS-DOS, because my father bought a computer for his auto shop around 1984 and there was a spiral binder manual that documented it. - Anonymous 01:48, 09 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:200:4400:2230:CBC:A7BA:6E29:FDFA (talk)

Move
I believe the correct title of this game is Beast but seing as how that isn't unique, I think the page should be moved to Beast (ASCII game) or Beast (video game) comments? McKay 15:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree on the capitalization, though it's clearly an ASCII game, not a video game. It's in the gray zone, because its graphics are plain ASCII and "things move around" unlike many other ASCII games. For comparison, space invaders is a video game (not using ASCII) so I'd say Beast is an ASCII game. Cyborg 10:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I'm thinking that ASCII games are a subset of video games. Is that not correct? I'm not trying to discount it's status as an ASCII game, but I think that according to WP:CVG, the "(video game)" is more preferred to other disambiguators. McKay 17:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, seeing there are no other video games named Beast there's no call for using sub-genres. We should still mention ASCII somewhere though so people looking for beast ascii game will find it. Cyborg 06:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * done! McKay 16:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed sections
I removed the section "Running the game on a modern PC", which contained just generic info that had no special relevance for this game.

I also removed the External links section, since none of the links fulfilled the conditions of WP:EL. There was a link to the file (WP:NOT), a link to DOSBox, and to a JavaScript remake that isn't even finished yet. — Graf Bobby 05:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Revert of history not OR
Regarding the removal of history section. I see user Mckaysalisbury reverted the history I added due to WP:OR although this isn't original research - I received an email from the author, Dan Baker (which I was skeptical to, knowing there's no way to fully prove he is really him). I asked him to prove his identity, which he did by replying to my email (I would have to ask for his permission to provide this email thread copied to this Talk page) and telling me his story, which I consider plausible. Why would anyone go to this length to fake an identity when there's no money involved, and the background (he provided some company background) checks out. Normally I would agree, there's no room for OR in an encyclopedia. However, there should be room for historical facts if they are proven to be correct. What proof will suffice? I'll email him again and ask about posting the thread anyway. Cyborg 18:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm reverting as per the reasons you specified. For a more full treatment on the subject, read WP:RS, WP:A, and WP:OR. McKay 20:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Seeing you have not reverted - I'm not going to revert unless we agree it should be done. I have received permission from Baker to copy the emails. I'll add the full thread as well as the permission thread. letters moved to /Dan Baker Letters for cleanliness
 * While I think this is totally cool, and probably true, the fact of the matter is that the information presented is WP:OR, and doesn't qualify as a WP:RS. If you think it does, please read those articles and quote relevant policy saying that the information should be included. In order for this kind of thing to be included in Wikipedia, it needs to be covered by a "reliable source". I work for a local magazine, and due to the information presented by him through you, I think that the two of us (DanB and I) might be close enough for a personal meeting. I'd love to write an article about him. I'm not sure how my editor would feel about such an article, so it might just get blogged. Would you mind sending me his email address so I can contact him about such an interview or something. Now I could write an article, and it might get published, and it might be considered reliable, but then sourcing it in Wikpiedia might be a little of a WP:COI, but I think it's the best course of action (and I'd like to meet him anyway :D) McKay 06:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm asking him if he will share his email with you for arranging an interview. I need some way to contact you (McKay) in person, because I will not post his address publicly. Cyborg 09:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You can email me via the "E-mail this user" link in the toolbox on my user page or talk page. McKay 14:48, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I would, except it says "This user has not specified a valid e-mail address, or has chosen not to receive e-mail from other users." Cyborg 14:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I received emails from a user a couple weeks ago. mckay checks his settings Sure enough, it was turned off. It's turned back on now. Send away! McKay 15:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

For the record I sent you the mail now, looking forward to hearing about the interview! Keep us posted. Cyborg 11:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup, I got it, and i've been emailing him. He lives in the same city as I do :D McKay 17:18, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that's quite remarkable. I mean what's the chance of that? Hope your magazine editor will like the idea of an interview with him. If it's a local magazine he really should I think! Cyborg 19:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a local magazine aimed at college students. And because of the summer, they're not printing issues. We actually work within a mile of each other :D. Also, my boss used to work with him at a different company, and my boss has met him. What a small world. McKay 14:27, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I know, it's funny. So there will not be an interview yet because the magazine is not printing at the moment? Cyborg 17:21, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No, there will be an interview, I just don't know how or when it will be published. McKay 17:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

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Burial?
The article mentions it's possible to bury monsters, instead of crush them, but does not explain what that means. Can it be clarified? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salty-horse (talk • contribs) 12:08, 8 April 2015 (UTC)