Talk:Beatrix

Pronunciation
User:Espoo. You must know a Beatrix who pronounces her name as /ˈbiː.trɪks/. As written sources maintain three syllables even for the American pronunciation, you've supported /ˈbiː.trɪks/ with two sound files. The American at the Oxford learner dictionary speaks so fast that you could indeed imagine the schwa to be swallowed. The second one (ref 3) doesn't back you up because he is British and pronounces the schwa. The Longman Pronunciation Dictionary (2008 edition) gives /ˈbɪətr.ɪks/ for British and /ˈbiː.ə.trɪks/ for American English (note that he considers the British pronunciation two-syllabic;-). Longman tends to give ample variations (e.g. Beatrice has six, all with schwas), but leaves Beatrix with these two choices, not even mentioning /ˈbeɪ.ətrɪks/. There is some basic wikipedia rule (probably WP:V) that forces me to have to to undo your edit again I'm afraid. Afasmit (talk) 21:58, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I moved the sources next to each pronunciation instead of having them at the end of the sentence.
 * The American sound file at the Oxford learner's dictionary most definitely has the most common American pronunciation without a schwa.
 * If you're sure you're quoting Longman correctly, we can of course add that US version. I still haven't bought that book, and one reason is that i've noticed sloppiness in reporting American pronunciations, which is once again demonstrated by your report that it doesn't even mention the versions without a shwa for Beatrix and Beatrice. These versions are definitely very common and should be reported even if Longman has perhaps found evidence for widespread use of the versions with a schwa.--Espoo (talk) 06:30, 14 October 2017 (UTC)