Talk:Beauty and the Beast/Archive 1

The Royal Library of the Netherlands has some nice pictures of old B&B manuscripts available here. The copyright information they give is thus: ''Onderstaande afbeeldingen zijn vrij van rechten. Ze zijn gescand op grafische resolutie (300 dpi) en mogen met bronvermelding (foto: Koninklijke Bibliotheek Den Haag) bij uw berichtgeving geplaatst worden.'', which roughly translates as:
 * The images below are free of copyrights. They are scanned at a resolution of 300 dpi and they can be placed in your publication if the source is attributed in the following way: "Picture: Koninklijke Bibliotheek Den Haag".

&mdash; mark &#9998; 15:22, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Other settings
This is admittedly less important today, however there have been opera settings of the folktale: Spohr's "Zemire und Azor" is one. Perhaps this should be mentioned?


 * Any notable adaptation is a worthy entry. Goldfritha 23:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Is it appropriate to mention somewhere a Russian version, "Аленький цветочек" (Scarlet Flower) by Сергей Аксаков (Sergey Aksakov)? It's a classic of Russian literature. Ivan.Lt (talk) 13:25, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Mothers and significiance
The fairy tale, as commonly known, is about the father. If the first version was about the mother -- and I'd need a reference for that -- still the father's overwhelming prevalence means that this is the story with the significiance to be discusssed. Goldfritha 23:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Under "Adaptations"
"...by the end of the story, the audience is so accustomed to and charmed by the Beast, that when he changes back into the prince, it is a disappointment to see him reduced to just another pretty face."

I can see where this is coming from, but I have to disagree. Is this really something that applies to most people? It should be taken out. Sounds more like a personal preference to me.

by Wild Mountain Thyme 23:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * You're completely right. And also, that sounds like a fairly uncommon personal opinion to me, and is therefore not representative. 80.47.182.39 00:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

"cavivan"
I just cleaned a number of misspellings, but I'm stumped on this one: "The set includes a spinning cavivan." This is apparently a typo, but I have no clue what for. "Caravan," maybe? It should be corrected by someone who can guess what it is, or deleted otherwise. --TJRC (talk) 22:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Beast of Gévaudan
Is it possible that the Beast of Gévaudan is an inspiration for the Beast in this story? You can find info on the aforementioned beast by searching for it on this page. Cyrus Beautor (talk) 23:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Plot summary
I believe that the part when the Beauty is in the Beasts palace should be emphasized more, after all it is the more important part of the story. 19:18, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Templates
I placed "unreferenced" tags on each subsection of Adaptations so that any one can be removed when it no longer applies while the other subsections would remain tagged for as long as they lack references. Also, I believe the "Trivia" tag is valid for the adaptations section, see the links in the template. PSWG1920 (talk) 20:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Non-notable Productions
I've removed some of the stage production info as it doesn't seem to be that notable. It's preserved below if anyone disagrees. This has the added bonus of removing the mysterious "cavivan".


 * Beauty and the Beast has recenly been adapted by Mark Bodicoat, part of Broughton Players to perform as a pantomime in February 2009. Characters include, Prince, Beast, Belle, Vera (Bells Sister), Mon Alliotoin (Vera & Bells Father), Sid, Arty (comedy duo), Madame Flambet (Dame), Guy, tracie, Dolly, Molly, Baker, Greengrocer and Butcher. Visit the Broughton Players Website for more information on www.broughtonplayers.org.uk'''


 * Beauty and the Beast was The Castle Theatre Wellingborough Christmas show in Nov-Dec 2007 with all new music. The Castle's version of Beauty and the Beast tells the original story, though a traveling theatre company. The set included a spinning cavivan.


 * Beauty and the Beast, musical version, has recently (1-15 November, 2008) been performed by the Gilbert and Sullivan Society, in conjunction with Leiz Moore and Allan Jeffery in Tasmania. The ultimate love story was a great success with thousands over the two week period coming out to view local talent at it's very best in the 'tale as old as time'

Broken link "RSC"
The link to the RSC from the sentence:

In 2003, the RSC put a version on stage that was closer to the original story than the Disney version. It was so popular that the RSC repeated it in 2004 with additions and slight variations to their original script.

doesn't redirect to the right organisation that is mentioned. I don't know which link is meant so I haven't changed anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.90.9.82 (talk) 18:47, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Needs something about the origins
Quoting from: http://www.balletmet.org/Notes/StoryOrigin.html

Many experts trace similarities back to the stories of Cupid and Psyche, Oedipus and Apuleius’ The Golden Ass of the second century A.D. The tale of Beauty and the Beast was first collected in Gianfranceso Straparola’s Le piacevolo notti (The Nights of Straparola) 1550-53. MantraMongoli (talk) 22:38, 15 October 2010 (UTC)