Talk:Beef Wellington

New article
This article is based on a section removed from beef tenderloin, expanded, categorized, and with an image added. --MCB 04:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Clarification
I have added in the article... See discussion in the comments of this blog entry to understand the problem. There seems to be two ways to understand the words "but there is no evidence to say for sure." --Edcolins (talk) 21:04, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Wellington, New Zealand
Quote "In introducing a recipe for beef Wellington, Clarissa Dickson Wright claims "This dish has nothing to do with that splendid hero, the Duke of Wellington; it was invented for a civic reception in Wellington, New Zealand, but it is a splendid addition to any party."

Mischievous speculation by Ms. Dickson Wright? I don't think this is serious. P0mbal (talk) 16:08, 24 November 2011 (UTC) A citation would make it clear. P0mbal (talk) 23:18, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Your ever-inquisitive Disgruntled Old Coot was enamored with the discussions upon this page but limited to knowledge about food preparation to what is written on the side of the heat and gulp down soup can or the most simplistic recipe using minimal ingredients and preferably one pot for cooking then eating from the pot to minimize dishes needing washed. But, in the spirit of discussing/debating/arguing/bickering/etc. I feel a semi-whelming compulsion to ascertain what "is" is in the statements above where "is" is located. I remain the Mighty ObbopObbop (talk) 00:08, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Could not have originated in New Zealand in 1815
If the Beef Wellington did originate in New Zealand, it would not have been in 1815. The Wellington article states that the City was founded in 1839 - 24 years later. Clearly any creation of the Beef Wellington for some civic reception in that City would have happened after that, probably well after. The claimed year should be removed.

First mention of the recipe?
I have found a recipe of "Lungenbraten Wellington" (beef tenderloin Wellington) in an Austrian cookbook of 1931 and I doubt that this was the first recording of the recipe. So maybe the section about the first mention should be verified or omitted. --Areiosgeorgos (talk) 13:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

It seems to me that the existing Polish reference deserves priority. Charles Clark (talk) 00:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

In fact, the first reference cited by the current edition of the Oxford English Dictionary is:

1903  Los Angeles Times 28 Oct. 13/1   Fillet of beef, a la Wellington. Charles Clark (talk) 00:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

It's originally a french dish. Sorry guys.
Filet de boeuf en croûte to be exact. But i don't want to disturb the peace to much, i know how much you want to claim things that in reality don#t have their origin in the egnland. So i won't make any changes to the article. Just pointing out it's, as so many english wiki articles, full of false information. 178.24.247.117 (talk) 17:19, 25 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Filet de boeuf en croûte is not the same as Beef Wellington. In fact the opening of this article is incorrect. Beef Wellington does not have pâté, it is the inclusion of pâté that makes it filet de boeuf en croûte. As the name and the inclusion of pâté suggests filet de boeuf en croûte is French in origin. Unless I see a well argued reason against I will delete the reference to pâté in the opening. treesmill (talk) 10:16, 11 January 2024 (UTC)