Talk:Beer pong (paddle game)

Merge with Dartmouth Pong
What is unique here that cannot be subsumed into the Dartmouth page?


 * If anything, Dartmouth pong would be merged into this one, not the other way around. However, even that is not necessary.  The Dartmouth page has a well-cited history more specific to that college.  It would be out of place here to get that detailed, yet it is still worthy of an article on Wikipedia.  When every character who has ever existed in the street fighter series gets a page, I have a hard time believing a college phenomenon as pervasive as pong is undeserving of both an article about it's oldest variant and a parent article about the game as a whole.LedRush (talk) 14:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Merge
I don't know how to initiate this, but this article MUST be merged with the "beer pong" article asap. Youdontsmellbad 08:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Beer Pong paddles
Beer Pong should only be called Beer Pong if and only if it is played with Paddles. Libia and other such names should be used for the game where you throw the ball into the cups.

These rules were created/established in 1980.

The game is played on a regulation sized table with regulation sized balls and paddles. All rules of play are enforced as in playing table tennis.

The exceptions or additions:

The ball is always in play as in table tennis. The one exception or addition being that you can not hit a cup on a serve. The ball must be given the ability to hit the opposing side of play once. A player cannot block a cup until the ball has bounced on his side once. A player can not hit the ball twice on his/her own side of play. During play if the ball hits a cup but has only bounced once and is returned then the ball is still in play and whoever loses the point has to drink. If you knock over a cup, hit a cup, glance a cup, if it bounces up and is playable then the game continues until one player loses the point or is cupped. Multiple hits are added to the total until a player loses the point or is cupped. The amount required to drink for a single hit varies but generally around a 1/5 or 1/4 of the cup is accepted. If the ball is hit into the cup then the owner of the cup must drink the entire cup. It does not matter if the owner hit it into his/her own cup or hopefully the opposing player hit it in they still must drink the contents of the cup and they must leave the table. This is also true if a player hits their own cup, they must drink from it if they lost the point. If a player knocks over his own cup or partners with a paddle and not the ball this is considered a fault. They must fill each cup on their side of the table and consume them and then refill the cup and play continues. If a player 'cracks' a cup meaning that the cup is cracked and leaking the owner of the cup must consume all cups on his side of play and after refilling the cups play with the cracked cup inside a new cup creating a larger target. The game is to 21 or until one person is cupped. The preferred method is to cup someone but upon occasion this is not the outcome. If the game reaches 21 then the players have the opportunity to play another match against each other or leave the table. Outside interference is not tollerated during play and any such persons doing so must drink all cups on the table. Single players can play with one or two cups but this must be established before the start of the game as it must be equal on both sides. Doubles must use two cups. Cups are placed exactly one paddle length forward from the back of the table and down the center line for single cups. Doubles are placed one paddle length in from the side and back of the table. Players must use similar cups. Contents of cups must be alcohol, beer is preferred but others are accepted. Negotiations in non-sanctioned matches are allowed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.161.206.98 (talk) 15:24, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Variations Section
Would anyone object to having a varations section that would list major forms of the game, like the list at Dartmouth pong and the style of fast pong played at Bucknell Pong.

This article would describle general pong, incorporate much of the history of Dartmouth pong, and then have very short descriptions of each variant. Then people could list the entire rules of the variants on different articles.

It seems that the Dartmouth Pong article is better sourced than this one, and a lot of it could me made to make this one better, seeing as Dartmouth invented the sport and many variations of it.LedRush (talk) 00:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't know about the Bucknell Pong section. Honestly, not a single person at Bucknell plays this version of the game.CalBears99 (talk) 02:37, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

New Page format
I am trying to establish this page:

1. With more citations 2. As a better reference for the "real pong" (pong with paddles) 3. As a place where people can be introduced to some main variations of beer pong.

This was just my first attempt and I am happy to help make the article better any way I can.LedRush (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Not a game guide
This article is full of unsourced variations that clearly did not fit the intentions of Wikipedia (GAMEGUIDE). There is no question that the Beer pong (paddles) section needs citations. FerrousCathode (talk) 02:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Poorly Sourced
This article is almost entirely unsourced. Some sources are dead links, some don't actually refer to this game, and what sources do exist seem only to be people's recollection of playing the sport. Most of the article covers rules and variations, all of which is completely unsourced. It seems like this article could be about 10 times shorter and if any links do exist for rules, perhaps they can just be referenced as related links? Sheriffjt (talk) 02:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

More specifically, this article sucks.

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