Talk:Beforeigners

List of references
added these to the article, I've moved them here instead. These can probably be included in the article, provided they are invoked in a more appropriate manner. Gabbe (talk) 11:15, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * https://www.dagsavisen.no/kultur/tv/fremvandrerne-helt-fremragende-1.1569270
 * https://www.information.dk/kultur/anmeldelse/2019/08/norsk-tidsrejseserie-forrygende-sammenstoed-mellem-civilisationer
 * https://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/tv/a/wP0Rxd/hbos-forsta-norska-serie-ar-skruvad-och-oemotstandlig
 * https://sverigesradio.se/sida/gruppsida.aspx?programid=478&grupp=18638&artikel=7285787
 * https://elpais.com/cultura/2019/08/23/television/1566578594_518794.html
 * https://www.elcorreo.com/butaca/series-tv/visitantes-combatiendo-cronofobia-20190826001017-ntrc.html
 * https://www.xataka.com/cine-y-tv/beforeigners-ultima-sorpresa-verano-esta-serie-noruega-ciencia-ficcion-viajeros-intertemporales
 * https://www.origo.hu/teve/20190903-hbo-soorzat-ezer-eve-megeroszakolta-bosszubol-kiharapta-a-fel-arcat.html

Discrepancies
Thanks for the edits. Really makes it read smoother.

There are discrepancies in the span between the first appearance of the Beforeigners and the title card. On the first day of the story, Lars has signed for a house with his pregnant wife. The Beforeigners arrive that day. Then the title card cuts to "A few years later..." But now (present day) Lars's *only* child is now 18, graduating high school. So *exactly* 18 years have passed. Further, Alf was fished out of the bay (in the past) around age 5. Now she's something like 23? So, again, 18-ish years. Even further, she lived as an adult for years in the past, achieving the rank of shield-maiden, then time-migrated, and has been around long enough to learn the language, know how to drive a car and work computers, and graduate from the police academy. That's a busy life.

Another discrepancy. In the pilot, a newscaster says the time migrants are popping up as a worldwide phenomenon. But in the final episode, we learn there's only one time hole, and it's in the Norwegian bay, and the government likely scienced it up as an experiment, and are fighting to cover it up.

I figure the discrepancies are because the pilot didn't have all the details exactly lined up, and didn't go back and correct them. Clay Emery — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clayton Emery (talk • contribs) 02:07, 16 March 2020 (UTC)


 * hi!
 * i don't see any indicators for pregnancy of Lars' wife. so as there is no supporting evidence for the 18 years, i change the summary of episode 1 now. -- seth (talk) 13:37, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Synopsis
FWIW, I wrote the full synopsis and was thanked by Anne Bjornstad, one of the creators. Here's her email: "Hi Clayton, Thanks for your friendly email and for writing the synopsis. (I was wondering who did that)...  Keep healthy and safe, Anne"  Clay Emery  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clayton Emery (talk • contribs) 12:50, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Plot to Premise: shorten description per MOS:TVPLOT
According to Manual of Style/Television "If the plot summaries are moved to a separate list of episodes or to individual season articles, then the plot summary at the series article should be replaced with a simple overview or premise section that allocates around 100 words per season." Currently Season 1 plot summary has 600+ words and Season 2 has ≈200. After season 2 is finished, I intend to replace the existing Plot section with a Premise section and significantly reduce the content to ≈100 words per season. I have informed you, as prominent contributors to the article, to ascertain whether you have any reasonable concerns over this action.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 20:49, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Cast and characters
So far there have been only 2 seasons, and for a series with 2 seasons there are too many names/characters listed. Which means that the list needs to be reduced. Pyxis Solitary  (yak). L not Q. 09:03, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Per MOS:TVCAST >
 * I get where you're coming from,, but I don't really think it's an issue. Why does it bother you that the cast list is as long as it is? Does it detract from the article in any way? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:51, 5 February 2022 (UTC)


 * We create and edit articles, and we engage in this project, according to Wikipedia's policies. MOS:TV exists so that all television series articles are uniform in content and layout. TV series have many characters, but they're not all a determinant factor in the overall story; which is why MOS:TVCAST is specific about what actors & characters are eligible for inclusion in the listing. Right now, the section contains 44 names ... for a series comprised of just 12 episodes .  This series isn't, for example, Supernatural which ran for 15 seasons / 327 episodes and because of this has 102 actors/characters listed.  Pyxis Solitary   (yak) . L not Q. 09:04, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Spoiler
I realize that Wikipedia discontinued spoiler alerts back in 2007, but the overall "encylopediac purpose" of the spoiler is still supposed to apply.

Speaking only for myself, I'm not sure the last sentance of the last episode syopsis meets that criteria.

Again, only an opinion, but I do wonder if others might agree. Pfranson (talk) 16:02, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

The last sentence about ep 2.06 is accurate: "DNA analysis determines that Alfhildr is Lars' granddaughter." I, personally, see no issue with including spoilers. Pyxis Solitary  (yak yak). Ol' homo. 09:46, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Are you saying that you disagree with including the spoiler about the last episode? WP:DISC makes it clear: "" I may not like to find spoilers in an article about a TV series, but then ... why am I reading an article about it? Why read a film review when you know there will be revelations about the plot?