Talk:Begging/Archives/2016

Adding Jimmy Wales to the list of notable beggars
I really believe this should be done. After all, he actually really fulfils the requirements according to the definition: "Begging is to entreat earnestly, implore, or supplicate. It often occurs for the purpose of securing a material benefit, generally for a gift, donation or charitable donation."

It would be a hypocrisy not to include him, and I can only speculate why he is constantly taken down from that list. Bernd Berndsen (talk) 18:11, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm with you. - A random individual

I also agree with this. - Evgeny Petrosyan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.23.168.232 (talk) 19:50, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I also agree with this- anonymous user from Florida. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.69.210.40 (talk) 20:13, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Yup, Jimbo needs to be in there in the 'List of Prominent Beggars'. This is Wikipedia, after all. How could you kick him out of his own party? - Some dude.

He is one of the most prominent beggars in the world, he should be on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.14.190.220 (talk) 18:48, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

» He's being removed from the list repeatedly, for no reason. Can the guy who does this explain himself? --70.31.247.125 (talk) 19:10, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I removed it because he himself is not doing this (or at most he's a spokesperson, one of many individuals used in this ad campaign for the organization he heads)--third-party request. You need a reliable source that this banner-ad is even begging at all (an idea that has failed repeatedly at this and other pages) before getting as far as the WP:BLP requirement of a source that specifically cites him as doing the begging. DMacks (talk) 10:40, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I beg you to not become confused by this. begging in the context of this article is for people who personally do not have a required item, and who ask the public at large for the item. jimbo has not as far as i know begged anyone for contributions for his personal enrichment. that would be politicians running for office.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:14, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation (Again...)
I have (again...) added the Wikimedia Foundation to a list of beggars.

Why? One word: Cheese. | French Wikipedia Editors Want $6,000 To Buy Cheese (Which Raises Some Questions About The Site's Finances)

I'm sorry, but you cannot justify intrusive begging with a $60 million USD profit from 2014. IAMGOOMBA (talk) 22:49, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:NOTFORUM and WP:POINT. --Neil N  talk to me 22:53, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * asking for donations for a cause is not begging, in the context of this article. thats soliticitng donations. If i sit on the street corner and solicit funds for homeless people, i am not begging, though i may sound like i am begging, and possibly begging for attention. words have multiple meanings depending on context. back to school for you.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:16, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Overhaul of page
I do not see how writing about legal restrictions on begging is at all appropriate for this entry. If this is to be part of the sociology portal, it should discuss under each country the population of homeless, the social setup, the culture of begging (for example, India and China), statistics on begging - such as percentage of those who are homeless vs not, etc. Legal restrictions are constantly changing and also the current list is extremely sparse and makes no sense as to why certain countries or areas are mentioned versus others. I propose an overhaul of the whole page with the "legal restrictions" aspect shortened or changed to cultural commentary. Aintiainti (talk) 01:02, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

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Begging in Missouri
Quite a bit of detailed content about begging in the State of Missouri was added to the article by with this edit. This is quite a bit of detail which does not seem appropriate for Begging. There already is some content about the United States in general in that particular section and adding this much detail about a single US state seem a bit of WP:NOTEVERYTHING and bit of WP:UNDUE. It appears according to user talk page post that this content might have been added by a student as part of a class assignment. I don't want to see anyone get a bad grade because of Wikipedia, but it's a bad idea to base our grade on a Wikipedia article and not really in the best interests of Wikipedia for such edits to be made. It might be possible to add a sentence or two to this content to the paragraph about the United States, but anything more is probably more suited for consideration as a stand-alone article titled "Begging in Missouri". -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:15, 27 December 2016 (UTC)