Talk:Begum Rokeya

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Name spelling
Actually, [ http://banglapedia.info/HT/H_0170.HTM Banglapedia] spells her name as Roquia. I assume it is he way she spelt her name in English. --Ragib 06:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Rokeya Sakhawat Hussain → Roquia Sakhawat Hussain — According to a comment made on the talk page, this is how this woman's name is spelled. This spelling is also used on the article. Peter O. (Talk) 03:26, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I've moved it. — Mets 501 (talk) 01:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Although the Penguin edition of her book, Sultana's Dream, spells her name Rokeya. So do almost all other English editions of the book. It seems to be only Banglapedia which uses "Roquia". --Zeeshanhasan 10:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * "When she wrote in English, she transliterated her name as Rokeya." If this is true and if Banglapedia is the only book to spell her name as differently, what's the point of this move? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Subarno2357 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

apologist
this article now has an unecessary apologist tone--ppm 18:45, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

explanation of reversion of recent changes
I have just reverted three changes by an anonymous editor. I suspect the person is new, and don't wish to be discouraging. Please create an account, and we will be willing to help you make your mark within Wikipedia.

The main reason I reverted the changes is because they provide no sources. The article is very weak on sources; all the more reason not to include more new material that could be original research. Secondly, the changes introduced poor grammar, and removed wikilinks. No reason was given for any of this. BrainyBabe (talk) 12:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Begum preciding the name
As apparent from her writings and from the information provided in the works of other authors, she never used the Begum in front of her name (Reference, Royeka: Obodan o Shimana by Golam Murshir - Published in Prothom Alo, December, 2006 and Compiled in his book Naree, Dhormo Ittyadi)- even though she is known commonly as Begum Rokeya by most people of this time. The use of Begum as a honorific is also not accepted by all feminists without objection. If she herself avoided the use of Begum preceding her name, it should be avoided to be used in the article and as the image caption.

If anyone can put a reference where she used Begum preceding her name - or explicitely accepted doing so, I will be grateful to be informed. Sayutee (talk) 18:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

all Bangladeshi categories removed
The article belonged to four categories beginning with the word "Bangladeshi" (writers, women writers, essayists, feminists). It has been removed from all four categories, without explanation. I assume this is because at the time that she lived, the country called Bangladesh did not yet exist. Fine. But it seems a disservice to our readers to deprive them of legitimate ways of finding out about RSH. Is there some way round this? I for one do not object to ahistorical labelling of this sort; sometimes it is useful to group together everyone who lived in one geographic place, whether that place was called Bangladesh, East Pakistan, East Bengal, Empire of India, or whatever. (Or, to take examples from other continents: Czech Republic, Czechoslovakia, Bohemia; Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe-Rhodesia, Rhodesia, Southern Rhodesia.) Another way forward might be equivalent categories for Raj days -- Cat:Indian Empire writers, etc. BrainyBabe (talk) 08:27, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Is there some way round this? I have added Infobox and mention all about. I think this is sufficient.Thanks.- Jayanta Nath (Talk 07:08, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Move?
Her name almost always include Begum with it. Most books I have come upon use the full form Begum Roquia Sakhawat Hussain and Begum Roquia is more well-known name. Hosting the article at Begum Roquia Sakhawat Hussain, with redirects from Roquia Sakhawat Hussain and Begum Roquia is probably a better idea. I am also not sure if Roquia is the correct spelling, despite it is used in Banglapedia; they are not always correct about everything. Many university female halls of residence are named after her, and does not use the spelling Roquia, rather Rokeya. Someone has to check it up with Bangla Academy or at least look it up in some of her publication. –  nafSadh did say 14:42, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree that the honorific would be a nice addition in this case. It would fit with the allowable exception listed at WP:HONORIFIC, that "Where an honorific is so commonly attached to a name that the name is rarely found in English reliable sources without it, it should be included." About the spelling, a google search for "Rokeya Sakhawat" gave 23,400 results, and for "Roquia Sakhawat" gave only 7,800, but I'm not sure if that is the most reliable way to search (perhaps "Roquia" would be found more often with a different spelling of "Sakhawat"). Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:02, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

English?
It would be helpful for those of us who would like to know her work better but are language-challenged to have it clearly indicated which language each work is in. I hope someone can add that. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:42, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 24 March 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Move. We have consensus that the proposed title is far and away more common, and that "Begum" is not an MOS:HONORIFIC in this case. Cúchullain t/ c 13:00, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Roquia Sakhawat Hussain → Begum Rokeya – Begum Rokeya is the most recognizable name. A lot of educational institutes (e.g. Begum Rokeya University), residential halls etc in Bangladesh are named after her and most (if not all) use this spelling. Though, her name appears differently on different books she authored; mostly variations of Rokeya Sakhawat Hossain. I propose, we name the article Begum Rokeya, the common name, and open the article with her name shown as Rokeya Sakhawat Hossain with other variations parenthesized.

Google Books: "Roquia Sakhawat Hussain" 1,930 vs "Begum Roquia" 125 vs "Begum Rokeya" 2,350 and "Rokeya Sakhawat Hossain" 3,090 Google: "Roquia Sakhawat Hussain" 8,510 vs "Begum Roquia" 1,590 vs "Begum Rokeya" 215,000 and "Rokeya Sakhawat Hossain" 16,200
 * –  nafSadh did say 15:33, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose MOS:HONORIFIC / MOS:JOBTITLE ; Begum is a title. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:13, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Begum is often part of full name, sometimes even first name in Bangladesh. –  nafSadh did say 12:25, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ with move. Begum is not an honorific. It is her first name. - Rahat (Message) 05:24, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Support as per WP:COMMONNAME --Sanam (talk) 12:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Request for removal of book cover photo
The photo used as the book cover of অবরোধবাসিনী (File:অবরোধ বাসিনী বইয়ের প্রচ্ছদ.jpg) is a modern picture and does not depict anything historical. So, I request it to be removed from the article, as well as from Wikimedia commons. Ifteebd10 (talk) 21:17, 26 May 2022 (UTC)