Talk:Bel Air, Los Angeles/Archive 1

Population statistics
''As of the census of 2000, there are 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 people in the neighborhood. The racial makeup of the neighborhood is 86.24% White (82.95% non-Latino white), 1.93% African American, 0.06% Native American, 6.84% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 1.30% from other races, and 3.59% from two or more races. 4.65% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race.''

'''The largest defined racial group is the Whites. Next, at 6.84%, are "Asians". Next, Latino & Hispanic (4.65%)

So why is it that in writing this entry, blacks (merely 1.9%) are mentioned after whites? And then Native American (who, at 0.06%, is the very smallest group)? '''

Because the demographics information was written by a bot, Ram-Bot, which used a standard boilerplate. 172.172.35.229 21:16, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Requested move
This article has been renamed from Bel-Air, Los Angeles, California to Bel Air, Los Angeles, California as the result of a move request. - move.

Bel Air has no hyphen, according to the Thomas Guide, Google maps, Mapquest and numerous other sources. The request is to move everything on here to a new page without the hyphen. Please indicate below any opposition to or endorsement of this move. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. Good discussion above, refreshing to see! Suspect that either name is acceptable, but I'd want more than one hotel name and a couple of street signs to justify the hyphen; It seems safest to leave it out. Andrewa (talk) 17:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Since there was a rough agreement on this last year, and no disagreement this year, I've gone ahead and made the move. Some care will be needed to make sure that subsidiary articles are correctly titled, as some may properly use hyphens (such as the hotel). ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 18:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Sources for 1961 fire?
What are the sources for the 1961 fire? Are they all from Life magazine? Then they should be cited by page number. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 08:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Bel Air Country Club
No need to modify exclusive with a superfluous adverb (highly). The adjective is the enemy of the noun, or, in this case, the adverb is the enemy of the adjective.


 * "Exclusive" is not an absolute modifier, unlike "unique". However "exclusive" means different things depending on who is being excluded. Many street gangs are very exclusive, for example. Plain "exclusive" will do. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 10:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Image requests
People in the Los Angeles area need to take pictures of the public schools that serve Bel-Air: "These Los Angeles Unified School District schools serve the area: Warner Avenue Elementary School, Emerson Middle School, and University High School. [8]

Some Bel Air area homes are within the Roscomare Road Elementary School attendance area.

In addition, an LAUSD magnet school named Community Magnet School is near the area. [9]"

It would be nice to see them uploaded. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well there is this image if the Jewish University. I'll go ahead and add it in. [[User:Happyme22|Happyme22 (talk) 17:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool! That's neat! When you get the chance, please see if you can get the schools too :) WhisperToMe (talk) 23:29, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Hyphen?
What is the source for the hyphen in the name? The GNIS has it as "Bel Air" (no hyphen), and in Google, the only hyphen that comes up quickly is the link back to this article. --Ken Gallager 20:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It also is shown as "Bel Air" throughout the Los Angeles city website. --Ken Gallager 21:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, answered my own question. The neighborhood association spells it that way and shows a street sign with the hyphen. That would trump the outsiders. --Ken Gallager 14:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Ken was right the first time; the neighborhood association is wrong. I've never seen a map of this area that had a hyphen, and I've been around a long time. Download the picture of the Sunset Blvd entrance shown at the beginning of the article. Enlarge the gatehouse on the left side of the entrance sufficiently, and you'll see the scripted words "Bel Air" - no hyphen. Herb3WH 11:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Plaques and signs are often wrong, so that isn't definitive. The Hotel Bel-Air uses a hyphen. OTOH, the L.A. Almanac, which is very reliable, does not. So there clearly isn't one right answer. However I'd favor removing the hyphen as that orthography appears to be used in more official settings. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 22:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the move was a mistake. The press uses the hyphen; see, for example http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/news/communities/la-re-guide6mar06,0,4652252.story?coll=la-realestate-communities 24.215.23.237 (talk) 21:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Nixon
undefined Richard Nixoon Richard M Nixon is referred to as "former vice president" should be "former president" Jbengten (talk) 20:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree. At the time of the fire he was a former vice president. He didn't become a former presidnet until more than a decade later. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 20:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps rewording it to say "Then former vice president" rather than "Former vice president" or something like that would be clearer? The vice in there made me do a double take also until I stopped and thought about the timing.  I think that's better so I'll change it, but no hard feelings if someone else wants to reword it again.Carychan (talk) 00:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea.   Will Beback    talk    00:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

First black teacher at Bellagio ES
Hi! You might be interested in: WhisperToMe (talk) 04:54, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Barnes, Michael. "Shirely Robinson Sprinkles, a life doubly altered by desegregation." Austin 360. Cox Media. Published Monday January 2, 2012. Updated on Tuesday January 3, 2012.

Zoned schools
Regarding this edit which removed Warner Avenue ES, Emerson MS, and University HS, it's important to state which schools outside of Bel Air have attendance zones serving portions of the community. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:09, 1 February 2014 (UTC)