Talk:Bell

Add service bell
Service bells (the kind that are used by hotels) aren't included in the article, nor is a picture of one included. I don't see a separate article about this, maybe it should be added here.

Edit history
Something is wrong. When I look at the edit history I see only my contribution. I didn't start the article. Rmhermen 15:46, Jun 30, 2004 (UTC)


 * Now the history is back -after a subsequent edit by Vampwillow. Not sure if this is a bug. Rmhermen 15:53, Jun 30, 2004 (UTC)


 * I've noticed this too over the last few days (including on articles I created!) but the history seems to reappear eventually. Nice job of re-editing btw ;-) --VampWillow 16:19, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

So, what makes a bell a bell?
The description of bells seems over-simplistic - "usually an open-ended hollow drum which resonates upon being struck" So is a cymbal a bell? Or a gong/tam-tam? What about jingles aka pellet bells? It would be my opinion that all three of those are not bells, although many would argue that the pellet bells are bells. Perhaps the def should read - an open-ended hollow or spherical drum (I don't care for that term - perhaps cup?) which resonates on being struck. I think it would be nice, also, to have a history section as well. After all, bells are among the oldest of instruments. Brad, 21 Apr 2007

The sound of bells
I would be interested in the exact composition of the sound of bells. The waveform, spectrum, dynamic structure and some basic information would be helpful, all in about a paragraph. Is this considered notable encyclopedic information? bkil (talk) 12:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Why are cymbals linked to a bell article?
Is the link to Tibetan tingsha bells make sense at all? They are not bells, they are cymbals!!! Kowloonese (talk) 08:28, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Tsar Bell
This page states that the Tsar Bell is 160 tonnes, whereas the Tsar Bell says 216 tons; which is correct?

Move discussion in progress
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Notable bells section
This section is currently quite a mess of units, with various different bells using one or two of tonnes, lbs and tons. One set of units (imperial or metric, probably the latter) should be picked as standard and the convert function used to provide an accurate conversion into the other. Thryduulf (talk) 00:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Colbert
(Ref: The Colbert Report (2011.06.06) Werner Herzog as guest; Bells wiki ref is 8:50 into episode.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by J5robert (talk • contribs) 22:32, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

LOCK THE PAGE! PAUL REVERE IS COMING AND HE IS TRYING TO WARN THE BRITISH WITH BELLS!

And now the page is locked with Sarah Palin still inside it. Good job, whoever signed off on that.

Knightskye (talk) 03:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That was me... And I've explained on your talk page. Grand  master  ka  04:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

UnsignedIP -->
 * The article has been fully protected. With apologies to any legitimate editors who may be affected by it, I have s-protected the talk page temporarily. --B (talk) 03:56, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Dear Stephen Colbert, Thanks ~so~ much for encouraging your viewers to become Wikipedia editors, and become contributing members of our community. We look forward to welcoming them and instructing them about Wikipedia standards. Say hi to Jimmy Fallon for me. Your fan, Robin. — Robin Lionheart (talk) 04:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The more the merrier (: Kushal (talk) 16:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 12.104.54.130, 7 June 2011
Please remove "Used by Paul Revere to warn the British they were not going to take our freedoms." from the topic "Church and temple bells". I believe this is a reference to the erroneous retelling of the history of Paul Revere by a well known public figure and should not be considered a legitimate historical source.

12.104.54.130 (talk) 17:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Done Thanks for noticing! --Old Moonraker (talk) 17:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * It was actually a reference to a request by stephen colbert on his television show to make that edit in ironic support of PalinLockeian (talk) 20:38, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 75.4.194.32, 10 June 2011
Bells: Used by Paul Revere to warn the British that hey, you're not going to succeed in taking our guns. USA! USA!

75.4.194.32 (talk) 18:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.- Happysailor  (Talk) 19:02, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request, 13 July 2011
Add "2080 lb" in the section Notable bells: "The Liberty Bell is a 2080 lb American bell of ..."; puts it in context.


 * Good idea: Yes check.svg Done, using a reference from Liberty Bell. Thanks, Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 12:24, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Dom Tower in the city of Utrecht
Why do you call the bell of the Dom Tower in Utrecht the second largest free-swinging bell in Europe ? Pretiosa in the Kolner Dom, Gloriosa in Erfurt, the Pummerin in Wien, Emmanuel in Paris, Potentienne and Savinienne in Sens, the big bell of Saint-Peter's in Rome, Sigmund in Prag, Gloriosa in Frankfurt, the big bell of the Kreuzkirche in Dresden, etc, are all larger and free-swinging. Thierry Pauwels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.181.41.44 (talk) 18:56, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Additional citations
Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 13:12, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Requesting indefinite full protection on article.
This article is high risk for vandalism and edit warring from our page history point of view because there were lots of reverts shown. If the full protection request is approved, it will be locked for users to edit and only administrators will be allowed to edit the article to stop any further vandalism on the article. Let's see. 2.216.191.10 (talk) 14:53, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * So can an approved editor add the Olympic bell into the article.MidlandLinda (talk) 10:10, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

That has been done Dougsim (talk)

Shopkeepers Bell
I think you should include a section about Shopkeepers Bells. I believe that is the term for them. Im talking about the type of bell you cheer at the entrance of a diner or a typical local door. The one that rings when you open the door. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.106.239.87 (talk) 05:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

"Bell construed as a cause for war"
The fourth section of this article currently consists of a five-paragraph historical account of events which, although a bell does play a part in them, seem to have been insignificant even for the one bell involved. I propose to remove it entirely from this article. But perhaps it can be used towards the article Siege of Osaka, which appears to cover the same material. Unlikelyuser (talk) 23:07, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I have removed it now Unlikelyuser (talk) 06:36, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree...probably added back when people were scrambling to find support for Sarah Pallin's bell comments. OhNo itsJamie Talk 13:59, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

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Bell infobox
Hi, there's a proposal to create an infobox for articles about notable individual bells that would benefit from input from anyone interested in bells. Please see the proposal and leave your comments at Draft talk:Bell infobox. — Kpalion(talk) 16:06, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

History Section
As late as the 10th century AD, European bells were no higher than 2 feet in height.

This is referenced to Joseph Needham, whose life's work was to claim all inventions were bigger, and better, and most importantly, invented first in China; a claim dutifully expounded by many Chinese on the internet. All claims by him need additional verification, and most importantly, need an automatic dubious ---  discuss tag.

Claverhouse (talk) 00:31, 8 March 2023 (UTC)