Talk:Bellevue, Washington

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As soon as One Lincoln Center opens up we should add a full description. solaro 05:57, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Neither Gates nor Ballmer live in Bellevue (they live in Medina and Hunts Point, respectively). The rest of the list is probably suspect as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.146.216 (talk) 05:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Election Results Source/Methodology
This article uses election results for the city of Bellevue from past elections. The source cited for these results are the King County open data pages with the results. However, election results are only tallied by Precinct on that site, which makes it totally unclear exactly how this data was aggregated and is at least somewhat an original contribution. I could imagine exporting filtered results to a spreadsheet and then just adding up all the results starting with "BEL" and computing the ratios, but this leads to some concerns:

1) Is this too much original research for Wikipedia? 2) Is the methodology accurate, ie do we know that the precinct results selected completely reflect the entire sample set? 3) Related to concern 2, does it at all make sense to talk about election results by city when results are in fact only officially tied to precinct, county, and state?

It may at least be good to document the methodology used. KitsuneLogic (talk) 12:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Bellevue's NOT a suburb of Seattle
Truthfully, Bellevue is actually, the last time I checked, the FOURTH largest city in the state at this current time. As a resident of Bellevue, I'm trying not to be biased, but I seriously doubt that Bellevue can be considered a suburb of Seattle. Besides, you have to cross Mercer Island in order to get to Bellevue, which separates Seattle and Bellevue out in to two cities anyways. I don't know, feel free to give your opinion on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xela267 (talk • contribs)
 * This has already been covered in the section directly below this and here. As long as Bellevue is a smaller city than Seattle it will continue to meet the requirements of a suburb. --Bobblehead 06:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Tacoma is also a smaller city than Seattle; does that make it a suburb of Seattle? Greg Lovern (talk) 17:39, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Just to let you know, Seattle and Bellevue are directly connected. There are two bridges between Seattle and Bellevue. The I-90 floating bridge goes from Bellevue, near the Factoria neighborhood, across the lake to Mercer Island, then across the lake again to Seattle, in the First Hill and Near-Soto areas. The 520 floating bridge is a direct connection between Seattle and Bellevue, going from Bellevue's Medina area neighborhoods to Seattle's U-District and the arboretum area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.89.184.155 (talk) 21:04, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This is an old section but just to set the record straight, there are no bridges between Seattle and Bellevue. The only bridge connecting Bellevue to another municipality is the East Channel Bridge to Mercer Island. The other I-90 bridges, Murrow and Hadley, do not connect to Bellevue. The Rosellini Bridge and its unnamed replacement connect Seattle to Medina, not to Bellevue. Ibadibam (talk) 20:40, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Tacoma is connected to Seattle by I-5; does that make it a suburb of Seattle? Greg Lovern (talk) 17:39, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Is Bellevue a suburb of Seattle?
HELLO, I found an article that cites Bellevue as a "boomburb". http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003476791_danny14.html IF SOMEONE WOULD PLEASE ADD THIS TO THE CITATIONS, IT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. 128.180.196.229 20:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

HA! This discussion was mentioned in the paper! ^_^  However this article reflects Wikipedia, more than the other way around. If you can get a hold of some of his sources then you should reference them, but it seems illogical to cite his article when it wasn't used to make this article. (Could someone please respond to my point at the bottom of this section?) --Kraftlos 23:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

It was listed as a suburb on the Seattle page, then changed to city, then changed back. It is one or the other. I think this might be worth some discussion on the talk pages of both the Seattle and the Bellevue entries. I am curious why one would think Bellevue is a suburb of Seattle. It is listed on wiki as being the 5th largest city in WA. Even on the Bellevue page there is not a single mention of it being a suburb of Seattle. Perhaps that should be added in if it is listed on the Seattle page as such. Would like to get opinions and as a newbie would be interested in learning about how we decide what the final verdict is. Based on number of folks with the same opinion? By the way, I have cross posted this with the Seattle page as well. Thanks ImpulsivePuppy 02:10, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Properly I'd call Bellevue an edge city (see book of the same title by Joel Garreau), which is a city that started out as a suburb (which Bellevue undeniably did) but became into a city of its own, which Bellevue is definitely doing. In fact Bellevue is listed as an edge city of Seattle on the edge city Wikipedia article. Jerry Kindall 00:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I am curious why you think because Bellevue has over 100,000 people and is the 5th largest city in Washington it isn't a suburb of Seattle? Check out these suburbs of Detroit:
 * Warren, population 134,056, 3rd largest city in Michigan
 * Sterling Heights, population 129,699, 4th largest
 * Dearborn, population 98,153, 8th largest
 * Livonia, population 96,942 9th largest
 * These are hardly ever not considered suburbs of Detroit. Even Warren and Sterling Heights, both larger than Bellevue, and both ranking higher in their home state than Bellevue, are considered suburbs of Detroit. Phizzy [[Image:SimpleMichigan.svg|30x15px]]  16:15, 9 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Added a link to both edge city and boomburb in the opening paragraph. Jerry Kindall

Apropos of nothing, but somewhat related to the "is it a suburb" question, I was just reading the Wikipedia article on my hometown, Columbus, Ohio. Check out the photo of its skyline (scroll down to Geography), which is eerily similar to the one in this article of Bellevue's skyline... it won't take too many more buildings to make Bellevue's look like that, really. Jerry Kindall 06:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Great city you guys have! If I ever make enough money, Bellevue is where I wanna be!

Bellevue really is not the city with all the rich people. The really wealthy live mostly in Medina, Yarrow Point, Clyde Hill, and Hunts Point) In fact, Bellevue itself is a very diverse city ranging from nice hilltop or lakeside homes to low to middle income housing in the east side of the city.  Namely, in the Crossroads area it is largely lower income apartments.  --Kraftlos 05:25, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Changed back to "city", it really isn't a suburb in any sense anymore. 128.180.196.229 04:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE it to 'SUBURB'. Thank you. 128.180.196.229 11:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Look what I've changed it to now. I think it is a good compromise. Please post here before you change thank you. 128.180.196.229 11:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Webster Definition Suburb 1 a : an outlying part of a city or town b : a smaller community adjacent to or within commuting distance of a city c plural : the residential area on the outskirts of a city or large town 2 plural : the near vicinity : Environs

Dictionary.com Suburb 1. a district lying immediately outside a city or town, esp. a smaller residential community. 2. the suburbs, the area composed of such districts. 3. an outlying part.

AskOxford.com suburb noun - an outlying residential district of a city.

American Heritage Dictionary 1. A usually residential area or community outlying a city. 2. suburbs The usually residential region around a major city; the environs.

Just because something is suburb doesn't mean that it can't be a city or can't have any serious commercial activity. A suburb is simply a community outside the main city. Sub (below, under) + urb (city).

It is true that Bellevue and other smaller communities existed on the east side in the first half of the 20th century, however when Bellevue incorporated in 1953, it was a direct result of population growth (and the creation of I-90). The Lake Hills community, one of the first GI Bill suburbs is often referenced when documentaries discuss suburbs or the GI-Bill.

Whether it has urbanized or not doesn't change the fact that Bellevue is a suburb of Seattle. A suburb will only cease to be a suburb when it has grown larger than it's parent city.

I'd also like to know if you people who are militantly defending this Edgecity or Boomburg idea actually took the time to look at a dictionary before you started this? And if you did, I would like to understand your reasoning on this; because by all these definitions,Bellevue is a suburb. --Kraftlos 05:25, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say anyone is militantly defending the use of edgecity or boomburb. It was more a consensus agreement reflecting that edge city and boomburb are a subset of Suburb and that there are certain aspects of the suburb definition that do not apply to Bellevue. Think of it as all edge cities and boomburbs are suburbs, but not all suburbs are edge cities or boomburbs. This conversation also took place here.--Bobblehead 02:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Dictionaries just document how a word is currently used by the general population. Many words have different meanings in various fields not mentioned in their general dictionary meaning. The fact that most dictionaries define suburb as "a smaller community adjacent to or within commuting distance of a city" (Merriam-Webster online), doesn't mean every city that meets that definition is really a suburb. By the Merriam-Webster definition of suburb I just quoted, Tacoma is a suburb of Seattle -- I've had coworkers in Seattle who commuted from Tacoma, and I read that more and more people are doing that as they are priced out of the Seattle housing market. Everett, too. And North Bend. We could name dozens of silly examples of cities that meet that dictionary definition of being a suburb of Seattle. It could be it's own Wikipedia page!

The classic, realistic, still-meaningful test for whether one city is a suburb of a larger nearby city is whether MORE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN IT COMMUTE TO WORK IN THE LARGER NEARBY CITY THAN WHO BOTH LIVE AND WORK IN THE CITY. That was true of Bellevue in the late 1940s and 1950s when it transitioned from mostly farms to mostly residential neighborhoods. But many years ago it reversed -- more people live in Seattle and work in Bellevue than live in Bellevue and work in Seattle. Does that make Seattle a suburb of Bellevue? No, because relative size matters too. But size isn't everything. Greg Lovern (talk) 18:00, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

An argument may be made that constituents in Bellevue/Redmond may be deciding this land use "city" or "suburb" question as much as the light rail / transportation. It's interesting Sound Transit – or opponents - haven't discussed much of the land use implications of ST2 and the increasing densities resulting from a “yes” vote.

This isn't particularly wise planning and discourages *individuals* from participating; who has the resources to go against the combined forces of Sound Transit and the City of Bellevue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArchXYZ (talk • contribs) 02:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Famous Residents
Bill Gates? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.187.154.33 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC).


 * Unless he's moved, Bill's in nearby Medina, WA. --Bobblehead 00:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Bill Gates lives in Medina!

BTW, why doesn't this page site its sources? I'm sure much of it could be linked to the Census page and the city homepage.

Medina IS Bellevue!

No, it isn't.
 * Its "cite", not site. --DerRichter (talk) 08:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Medina, Washington *is* a separate city from Bellevue, with it's own government. kgrr talk 00:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

What's the criteria
for Famous Residents?? Anyone? There are some controversy here alfiboy 21:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ideally, anyone that has an article in Wikipedia or holds/held a prominent position in something with an article. As an example, the CEO of Safeco or member of a band with an article probably warrants mention, but a member of a local band that doesn't have an article probably shouldn't get a mention. Realistically, whoever doesn't get deleted by another editor warrants inclusion. May also consider removing the section complete and creating Category:People from Bellevue, Washington. Famous people sections are generally just filler in an article. --Bobblehead 22:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed Section
I removed the crane accident because I don't feel it really tells you anything about the city. It really is a news item and belongs on http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/  However, its not really a news item either since it is written as history. I wouldn't make the event into its own catagory (NYC's article doesn't have a catagory for 9/11)

-- 2006 Crane Accident -- On the evening of November 16, 2006, a 210-foot tower construction crane toppled in downtown Bellevue, destroying much of the Plaza 305 building and causing extensive damage to an adjacent building and an apartment building across the street. The upper portion of the crane fell across 108th Avenue Northeast at Northeast Third Street and into a fourth-floor apartment at Pinnacle Bell Centre. Firefighters found the body of a man beneath the wreckage in the apartment. The crane operator escaped with minor injuries.

The crane, which had stood in an excavation pit at the site of the future Tower 333 at 333 108th Ave. N.E., fell eastward and bounced off the north side of Civica Office Commons before landing on top of the Plaza 305 building. King County Journal Article

Form of Goverment/Role of Mayor and City Manager
Edited to re-add the form of government (with citation), which is more formally referred to as a "Council-Manager" than a "Weak Mayor" form of government, and to amend the description of the respective roles of the Mayor and City Manager, specifically: statements suggesting that the Mayor position is "weak" because influenced by "specific special interests;" that the City Manager's position is "mayoral;" that the City Manager is solely responsible for "framing political issues;" and that the selection of the City Manager receives "more attention" than the selection of councilmembers. These all seem to be statements of opinion best left out unless verifiable. Claudb 07:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

"...that the selection of the City Manager receives "more attention" than the selection of council members." is verifiable. In the last city-wide election, all incumbents were re-elected by wide margins, with one of the Positions uncontested. It will be interesting to see Council's selection for the seat held by Council member Marshall; indeed, the short-list consists entirely of Board and Commission members and former Council member Creighton. This appointment will not be subject to a popular vote until 2009.

Contrast this to the selection process the City engaged in with the selection of City Manager Sarkozy. Council is distracted; many have full-time jobs and three of them have backgrounds in law. Form follows function; it is process, not elections, that drive the decision-making in Bellevue. Process is a managerial function deligated to management, not a popular one in the democratic sense. Most Council members haven't the time to communicate with their constituents. ArchXYZ (talk) 03:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Culture/Demographics Sections
There is some information about demographics in the culture section. While demonstrating lots of foreign born residents, it should really be in the demographics section, which leads into the culture section anyways. I will move these parts and cite the recent study on diversity in Bellevue (more nonwhites than whites).--DerRichter (talk) 17:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Citation #3
I would just like to point out, as an amusing note, that this article cites wikipedia and doesnt actually make many claims of its own about what Bellevue is (other than that it is not a suburb). Not that there's any problem with citing wikipedia vicariously through an independent source, but I just thought that was kinda funny. --DerRichter (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

NPOV
I think it's funny that that Bel-Red corridor section was put in by an unregistered user and I've been looking at the paragraph for 7 months and didn't notice the statement at the end. I guess I should have kept this page on my watchlist --Kraftlos (talk) 09:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Neighborhood names
I found this PDF map which show's bellevue's annexation history. The list of names are a mix of family names and neighborhood names, I tried my best to distinguish between them just based on what I know of the area (I grew up here). I've never heard of Woodridge or Longmont, but they checked out with the list. I'm going to look for a simplified map, the city has them sometimes in their mailings. --Kraftlos (talk) 10:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This one seems to simplistic. --Kraftlos (talk) 10:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Woodridge is the name of the hill where Woodridge Elementary is; there is also a pool that goes by that name. I think the second map is more geographical than a map of neighborhoods; I've also never heard it referred to as Richards Valley and Newcastle, Washington is its own city now, separate from Bellevue and different from on the second map. --DerRichter (talk) 15:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've seen maps like that in their mailings that were slightly more detailed than the second one. The first one has a ridiculous amount of detail.  --Kraftlos (talk) 08:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The second one has a ridiculous lack of detail. Parts of King County are claimed to be City of Bellevue Subareas.  Eastgate, Washington for example, is not a Bellevue neighborhood.  Eastgate was never annexed into Bellevue.  kgrr  talk 00:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I noticed the article on West Lake Sammamish redirects to Bellevue now since it was determined that it's no longer an independent CDP and was annexed in 2001. Indeed, I've checked and this seems true, however WLS is still listed in the King County navbox as a CDP. I'm wondering if it should be removed from the list, and if so, should the area be mentioned in this article as part of Bellevue so people know exactly what it is.Tfosorcim (talk) 21:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Downtown Bellevue article
I would like to point out that the article for Downtown Bellevue is completely unsourced (not even one external link or book), makes pov claims, and all of the relevant information it contains is already on this article. I will nominate it for merger soon unless anyone else has anything to add. --DerRichter (talk) 08:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Bellevue Climate?
Hi, I'd like to see something about the climate of Bellevue.

Specifically, I want to know average temperatures, humidity, and rainfall per month. I've seen this on the articles about other cities.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.15.70.176 (talk) 17:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is the information: Bellevue, WA Climate


 * Here is the infobox template you put it in:


 * Here is a website that also summarizes the climate for Bellevue: Bellevue Weather


 * Take a look at Kent, Washington to see how it's done.  kgrr  talk 05:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Surrounding cities
Is the intent to point to articles of only nearby "cities" or nearby "communities" - nearby cities, towns, CDPs and unincorporated communities. So for example, west of Bellevue, there is the town of Beaux Arts Village, Washington but the surrounding cities compass lists Mercer Island, Washington as being the neighbor to the west. Bellevue surrounds a CDP called Eastgate, Washington. Its population is bigger than many of King County's smaller cities. Thoughts? 00:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I like it how it exists. It would be really difficult to create a similar graphic including small communities such as Clyde Hill, Hunts Point, etc. It currently includes the more significant neighbors. --DerRichter (talk) 08:59, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have extended the navigation blocks towards the east side of King County - North Bend, Washington, but have included some of the smaller communities that are really CDPs or towns, not formal "cities" (referring to the form of government rather than the size of the community). I can understand how in the inner part of King County, one would be interested in navigating through the major cities.  kgrr  talk 11:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Material in need of sourcing
I'm moving to this Talk Page the following list of people claimed by the article to be natives and residents, until these can be properly sourced per WP:V:

Nightscream (talk) 11:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Shaun Alexander (Former Seattle Seahawks running back)
 * Michael Allan (NFL player for the Kansas City Chiefs)
 * Mark Arm (musician, Mudhoney)
 * Jay Buhner (former baseball player for the Seattle Mariners)
 * Joshua Caldwell (filmmaker)
 * Kristen Cox (blind American politician)
 * Yasmine Galenorn (urban fantasy author)
 * Stone Gossard (Musician, Pearl Jam)
 * Martin Harrison (NFL, American Football Player 1990-1999)
 * Megan Hilty (Broadway actress)
 * Jerry Holkins and Mike Krahulik (writer and artist of Penny Arcade, webcomic)
 * Page Hopkins (Fox News anchor)
 * Naveen Jain (founder, InfoSpace)
 * Etty Lau Farrell (vocalist, Perry Farrell's Satellite Party)
 * Tim Lincecum - (MLB, San Francisco Giants)
 * Harvey Manning (noted author of hiking guides and climbing textbooks)
 * Edgar Martínez (Ex-Mariners DH, third baseman)
 * Craig McCaw (cellular phone industry pioneer)
 * Alexey Pajitnov (developed Tetris)
 * Jeff Probst - (Host of Survivor (TV series))
 * Larry Sanger (Wikipedia co-founder)
 * Detlef Schrempf (former NBA Basketball player)
 * Jack Sikma (former NBA Basketball player)
 * Layne Staley (musician, Alice in Chains)
 * Richard Stearns (President of World Vision)
 * John W. Stanton (founder/former CEO Western Wireless)
 * Ichiro Suzuki (baseball player for the Seattle Mariners)
 * Cuong Vu (Jazz trumpeter, b. 1969)

What is the tallest building in Bellevue.
What is the tallest building in Bellevue? I was driving through and with all the new buildings I didn't know if it had changed.67.183.50.127 (talk) 03:01, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Joe

For the gamers
You can find in Bellevue the ArenaNet's offices. It is the city where Guild Wars 2 is being created. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.166.145.71 (talk) 14:44, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Satellite city? Boomburg? Edge city?
Bellevue can't be a satellite city, a boomburb and an edge city at the same time. A satellite city is a suburb with its own urban core, employment centers and bedroom communities, while a boomburb and edge city by definition don't have urban centers or bedroom communities. I lean towards Bellevue being a satellite city myself. D O N D E groovily  Talk to me  18:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * All the relevant pages have changed since you posted this comment, but I don't see how it can't be all of them at once. An edge city is a dense commercial zone in a formerly residential area, with more jobs than bedrooms, which Bellevue is. A boomburb is a rapidly growing area that remains suburban in nature. Bellevue is still mostly characterized by low-density subdivisions, car-centric transportation infrastructure, and shopping centers and strip malls, so it still has a dominant suburban character, although it has recently developed its own urban center. While Bellevue is geographically distinct from Seattle and has its own downtown, both characteristics of a satellite city, it hasn't retained its historic identity in the same way that cities like Tacoma have, doesn't really have its own bedroom communities (it shares these with Seattle, Redmond and Everett), and doesn't constitute its own core Census statistical area. Bellevue shares characteristics of all three, but doesn't perfectly fit any one definition. Ibadibam (talk) 17:55, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Bellevue has retained it's historic downtown core, but you might not have noticed because it's very small; just a couple blocks or so along Main Street. That's because it was just a farming community before the I-90 bridge went in in 1940 and it suddenly became a booming Boeing bedroom community. Six years later Bellevue Square was built and became essentially the new downtown core. Of course the old farming supply stores aren't there anymore; it's gentrified. But it's still the same buildings.Greg Lovern (talk) 01:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Climate record
The page on Seattle has an unsourced claim that it was 110 in Bellevue on the day in 2009 that Seattle set a record of 103. I've left a query there, because the two pages should be consistent. However, regardless of the answer to that, if the record high for July is 105, the year-round record cannot be 96 (or any temperature less than 105), so I'm going to edit the infobox to fix that in the meantime. Vicki Rosenzweig (talk) 05:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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Spring (re REI)
A neighborhood in Bellevue called "Spring" has been much in the news this past week in connection with REI's announcement that it plans to move its corporate headquarters there from its present, outgrown location in Kent. I've never heard of it, and the only thing I know is it must be near the projected light rail line. Puget Sound Business Journal article on the subject, to cite one reputable source. --Haruo (talk) 16:42, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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Shouldn't it be the French for?--Adûnâi (talk) 16:58, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No; frankly it sounds ignorant (and I believe is technically incorrect) to say "the French for". I have changed the construction: "The name 'Bellevue' is derived from the French words for 'beautiful view'.  General Ization   Talk   17:07, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

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Fixing Climate section?
Looks like there are some weird formatting things going on in the climate section - could someone take a look at that? ChunyangD (talk) 07:11, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2018
Change "became available" to "was illegally seized from Japanese and Japanese American farmers and sold" 168.156.36.177 (talk) 01:06, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Unfortunately, this was legal at the time. Please provide reliable sources for controversial edits like this one, and don't edit just to make a point. DannyS712 (talk) 01:58, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Not alternative schools
Regarding this:

"two alternative high schools, International School and Big Picture School (formerly known as Robinswood Alternative High School)"

First, Big Picture School in Bellevue is not "formerly known as" anything. It is in the building previously occupied by Robinsweed Alternative High School, but that doesn't mean it was formerly known as that. The two schools are unrelated except for the building used.

Robinswood Alternative High School was for underperforming students in danger of failing, and for students who had been expelled from other schools.

Big Picture School in Bellevue is a choice lottery school for excellent students who want a more interesting challenge than that offered by other public schools. It doesn't have room for everyone who wants in. It emphasizes project-based learning and public speaking, and all high schools students there are required to do an internship. It's a more rigorous program than the standard Bellevue high schools, which are themselves excellent.

As for the underperforming & expelled students who had been previously at Robinswood, Bellevue no longer has a school for underperforming students in danger of failing. Instead underperforming students are now integrated in all Bellevue public schools, and disruptive students who previously would have been expelled to Robinswood are now handled within each school.

Second, in Washington State, "alternative school" is usually understood to mean those for underperforming students in danger of failing, and for students who have been expelled from other schools. Calling International School and Big Picture School "alternative" schools gives the wrong idea to Washington State readers. They are "choice lottery" schools for high-performing students.

The reason Robinswood had to be closed is that the requirements of "No Child Left Behind" federal legislation made it impossible for a school specializing in underperforming and expelled students to meet federal requirements. Robinswood met the needs of underperforming and disruptive students better than they are now being met with them integrated into all the schools, and integrating those students in all the other schools puts downward pressure on the performance of other students in those schools. Greg Lovern (talk) 21:18, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Photograph of construction site removed
The photograph of the construction site illustrated the huge construction projects going on in Bellevue, which play a significant part in the Bellevue Economy, right now, and presage growth in the future. The construction site is significant for its size, which is evident from the photograph, as large pieces of construction equipment are visible in the excavation. You could say about many photographs, that there is nothing unique. Ahhh, who needs the picture of that park, just grass, trees and people like every other. But I'm sure that there are many photographs of parks, here, giving the reader a sense of a place. Construction projects give a sense of a place, too. Things are happening, dirt hauled away, concrete poured. It helps to show the state of Bellevue, as it stands now.Truth Is King 24 (talk) 23:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , Is this the link image that is under discussion? I see your point that this is representative of the city as it stands today. Is there a revision to the caption that you can think of? I think that this image does belong to the page -- a caption revision might be great. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 23:38, 6 September 2020 (UTC)


 * No, I'm sorry but it most certainly does not illustrate "the huge construction projects going on in Bellevue." It illustrates one construction site. One. There isn't even anything in the context of the photo that points to it even being in the topic city. It's a nondescript hole in the ground. Please provide a source for "the huge construction projects going on in Bellevue". Please cite a policy that supports your position on the efficacy of the photo's illustrative value. Again, it's a hole in the ground. And construction is booming all over the Northwest. This isn't a newspaper and it isn't a promotional vehicle for the city. John from Idegon (talk) 00:18, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Not sure of the relevance of the newspaper statement, nor the promotional vehicle statement. But, with a minor revision to the caption, I think this image does belong to the page. If the intent of pictures on a city page is to illustrate the current state of a city, I can see why construction should be fair to represent. That is my perspective. I will stand down and let others weigh in. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 00:29, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No, this is a bad image, sorry. There are construction sites in pretty much every major city in the world. This is not illustrative of the city of Bellevue; the reader does not gain understanding of the city by seeing an unremarkable hole in the ground. When the building is complete it will be one of several tall buildings in the skyline. Reywas92Talk 05:29, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Transportation Section Needs Work
The transportation section has multiple issues. Apart from the failed verification and the who? tag, it reads as a list of disjointed topics (highway, rail, air) and it jumps back and forth between present, future, and past tense. I am finding the experience of reading it jarring and confusing, and I am also wondering whether the future, as written in the past, remains accurate. It would be nice to see the section revised in chronological order, in narrative form, and with each paragraph about 2–4 sentences in length. HussainHx (talk) 15:58, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Demographics needs updating
The current article cites the 2000 census. Many other articles for cities I've seen have used the 2010 census. Perhaps update to the 2020 census? 2601:600:8D01:6CD1:4DBE:AC07:F72:D433 (talk) 20:52, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Most of the categories in the 2010 census section have still not been fully released by the Census Bureau, at least not on a city-level basis.  Sounder Bruce  21:47, 10 December 2023 (UTC)