Talk:Bembo

Roman & Italic
The present version of this entry reads: "Lowercase italic k has an elegantly curved stroke . . ." However, there is no "italic" version of Bembo. Strictly speaking "Bembo" refers to the range of roman characters. When Stanley Morison and the Lanston Monotype Company finished their metal interpretation of cuts by Francesco Griffo, which came to be known as "Bembo", it did not include an italic. Monotype first had Alfred Fairbank design an accompanying italic face, but it was ultimately rejected. Bembo was later paired with "Arrighi", an italic derived from the hand of Ludovico degli Arrighi. Current digital versions consequently have the roman Bembo paired with the italic Arrighi. "Lowercase italic k" thus refers to Arrighi, not to Bembo. 80.200.47.59 (talk) 10:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Expert needed
This article seems to express opinions on the subject with words like "elegantly," "delicate" et al. The editor who expanded this section also added four references, but without page numbers it's not exactly easy to tell if these are expert's opinions on the subject, or original research. I'm going to tag this section now for an expert, maybe someone who has access to these references cited can help. Auntie E. 19:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Recently available fonts
One would think this section would be for discussion of post-Monotype revivals of this face, but I found only a line about recent book projects that use Bembo. I've left it in, but it should be either deleted or moved to a section about notable book projects that use the face, which could get way too long. In the meantime I've added descriptions of the Cardo and Yale projects. Hieronymus Illinensis (talk) 11:28, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a good point. I've been looking recently at Bembo revivals and frankly I don't think many are that notable. (Cardo and Yale certainly qualify to my mind, Cardo being free and Yale being corporate-backed.) Do you have any ideas for topics that would be worth adding? Blythwood (talk) 07:50, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Expansion
Hello all,

I feel this article needs a bit of a tuneup. I'm happy to put in the time, but I'm keen to see what people think should be added/kept. My feelings are:
 * The history section was unsourced and it's clear there's a lot of history due to the mixture of related styles and sizes Monotype sold under different names (Poliphilus, Arrighi, Blado, etc). If anyone knows a good source on this please let me know, but my approach would be to cut down to a sourced minimum and leave the rest up to the reader to research.
 * Do we really need the list of order numbers? They're not even sourced to a specific Monotype publication! I feel anyone planning to engage in hot metal printing can and should be looking for more specialist sources than Wikipedia, and they do make the article very unwieldy. (Obviously I don't want the information lost - if, say, the Internet Archive or Flickr has an archived Monotype specimen booklet that would probably be a better place to send people to.)
 * The distinctive characteristics list is meaningless - 'double-story a' means it and every other serif typeface. (Except Bembo Infant...) Any suggestions about meaningful identifiable characteristics that set Bembo out from, say, Minion or Arno? I don't feel citations are needed so much here as anyone can look at the typeface for themself, but suggestions are welcomed. But we could just view the section as not appropriate to Wikipedia and cut it.

If anyone knows of some good specimens in hot metal I'd be keen to add them. I think a lot of people suggest that Bembo digitisations don't always quite capture the warmth and humanity of the hot metal version, but I only have a license to the first digitisation which everyone says is way too light..

Blythwood (talk) 08:01, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I've now reached the point where I think this article could make a GA nomination once I've locked down the information about the matrix order numbers. Again, any feedback welcomed. Blythwood (talk) 05:14, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

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