Talk:Benjamin Church (physician)

Biography assessment rating comment
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Natsubee 16:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Television?
Why does the article mention that Church "invented the first television of the U.S. Army, serving as the 'Chief electronics & Director General' of the Medical Service" if no method of electronic communication was available at that time, not to mention televisions!!!

Jeffrey ten Grotenhuis 22:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: move the pages to Benjamin Church (physician) and Benjamin Church (ranger), per the discussion below, and create a disambiguation page at Benjamin Church. Dekimasu よ! 01:18, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Benjamin Church → Benjamin Church (physician) – I don't believe this Benjamin Church meets either of the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC criteria. Usage-wise, Church the doctor's page doesn't get more views than all the others combined, and in fact barely exceeds the second-most viewed page (Church the military officer) despite the advantage of having the primary topic position. (Over the past 90 days: Church the doctor, 5382 views; Church the officer, 5072 views; Church the carpenter, 525 views.) A check of Google Books looked to significantly favor Church the officer, as does the number of links from other articles (officer 122, doctor 22, carpenter 7). While Church the doctor has considerable long-term significance, Church the officer does as well, enough that Church the doctor doesn't have a clear claim to the primary topic under this criteria either. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 21:47, 26 October 2014 (UTC) Egsan Bacon (talk) 13:40, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Support displacement and replacement with disambiguation page -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 05:26, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment the disambiguation at Benjamin Church (military officer) is problematic, since this Benjamin Church physician is also a military figure. -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 05:27, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Support move AND suggest Benjamin Church (US army physician) or Benjamin Church (military physician). Gregkaye  ✍ ♪  09:27, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Support, but the IP's concern also needs to be addressed. Perhaps Benjamin Church (ranger) would work for the other page? We can probably just be bold and do something like that, unless someone wants to revert it.--Yaksar (let's chat) 23:44, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Assumed Motivation
The assessment says: "It is now clear that he was supplying the British military with information in early 1775, most likely because he was deeply in debt and needed the money." This is an assumption. Perhaps he was genuinely supportive of the Crown government. Is the comment about him needing money simply whitewashing that fact? And might it not be more accurate to say simply he did it for the money, without leaning on his debt? I am posting this issue for discussion rather than "being bold" because I have only just learned of the case. Humphrey Tribble (talk) 19:42, 24 May 2022 (UTC)