Talk:Bennedict Mathurin

Groping Allegations
Information about credible allegations of sexual assault, seemingly caught on video, has been deleted multiple times as "irrelevant." 2600:6C5E:6E00:EC02:A40E:B1FA:C6:82F0 (talk) 01:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Only ONE editor said "irrelevant". The other editor is an administrator who reverted you three times and kindly did NOT block you for ongoing BLP violations. If you get reverted in a matter like this, you can take it to the talk page. What you can not do is restore the content and continue edit warring. Drmies (talk) 14:04, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "Kindly"? To be fair to both sides, explanation is necessary. Saying too much was said is vague, unhelpful feedback. Sources were updated per your original suggestion. Again, it's not clear to me why you are trying to suppress any discussion of these allegations that were widely discussed and reported upon. Your complete deletion of any discussion of this matter makes clear that you are not looking at this dispassionately and reasonably. 2600:6C5E:6E00:EC02:E4C2:F6CA:A6BA:2D05 (talk) 16:11, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Has he been arrested and convicted of sexual assault? No, so WP:BLPCRIME applies and there is no reason to include allegations and what amounted to a one day news story.19:03, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The reliable sources do not use the term "groping" or "sexual assault" and it is unclear whether or not any physical contact took place. It is a violation of WP:BLP policy to use such highly charged terms when reliable sources do not. Even if contact occurred, accidentally touching someone fleetingly is not an assault. There is no evidence that the woman was upset or complained. Mathurin has offered an apology. Per WP:NYPOST, the New York Post is not a reliable source, and will not be used as a reference. WP:BLP is policy and it says This incident took place over two months ago, and there is no evidence that this has had any impact on the athlete's career. It is a nothingburger, and I oppose mentioning it in any way. Cullen328 (talk) 19:21, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . I agree. And to the IP editor I'd like to say that "both sides" is totally inapplicable. What sides? Are you a side? We don't even know there are "sides", as Cullen indicated. And "saying too much" is not vague: just try saying less. Finally, the whole "trying to suppress"--do you know how often we hear that bullshit? We're here protecting the integrity of the project, and the suggestion that we are here to somehow protect individuals is insulting and silly. Drmies (talk) 22:30, 30 May 2022 (UTC)