Talk:Benoist (tea)

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I have been looking for Benoist in London and everyone I asked here haven't heard about Benoist. I phoned to Fortnum & Mason, and to Harrods to be told that they haven't hear about such thing. I started to suspect that this is a made-up story by Benoist Japan. - MOVED FROM ARTICLE

The Royal Arm used by Benoist Japan deosn't exist in the Royal Warrant Official Homepage. http://www.royalwarrant.org/
 * Confirmed. I suspect the fact about the only tea to hold three warrants is a direct quote from the Densha Otoko drama.  I'm adding a request for a citation of this fact.  Answers.com and such sites are not sufficient citations, as I suspect they are all sharing the same mistruth.  I've searched high and low for benoist, and only find it in Japan. Verdatum 23:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've done some more research, and confidently believe the fact to be false. Probably artistic license and marketing reasons, but the actual motive is just conjecture on my part.  I've updated the article. Verdatum 00:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

A search in the directory of this page also doesn't show that Benoist is a Warrant holder. This so called Benoist seems to have made up a story to deceive consumers.

Is Benoist Japanese company?
I'm not sure. But there are some evidence V. Benoist ltd has existed as purveyour. They may not have royal warrant now, might have at past. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.255.89.126 (talk) 07:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's nice, but you'll have to be more specific than "there are some evidence". What evidence would this be? -Verdatum (talk) 16:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

To my knowledge, V. Benoist Ltd of London NW10 licensed the use of the Benoist name to a Japanese organisation in about 1990. V. Benoist supplies top quality food products to the households of Her Majesty The Queen, The Prince of Wales and the late Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother, hence their award of three Royal Warrants. Benoist products are therefore entitled to use the Royal Warrants on their packaging. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katiecarobbar (talk • contribs) 20:46, 23 September 2008
 * (I moved the above comment to the talkpage because it was written in first person. It's unverified original research at the moment, but it is a promising lead, so I didn't want to just undue it.) This is interesting.  I can indeed find evidence that V. Benoist Ltd was at least a warrant holder at one point to the Queen Mother, and Prince of Wales.  I suspect that this information about licensing is probably true, but it would be really wonderful if we could find a source discussing the licensing of the name.  I'll keep searching to see what I can find.  Otherwise, I think I may soften the stance the article takes (after all, the current content is also WP:OR that is entirely my fault.) If you could provide any information about how you came to learn this, it would be extremely helpful. -Verdatum (talk) 21:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Origins of claims from the book
The article attributing the whole Benoist factor to the movie and suggesting it was intentional falsification is inaccurate; a contributor to one of the original 2channel source threads was the one to mention it, this posting was included in the books, and clearly the movie's writers simply repeated that information- see p. 201 of the 2006 Constable & Robinson edition. Whether or not a Benoist marketing employee saw the chance to big-up their brand in hopes of increasing sales and put forward misinformation to make it seem more 'elite' (this being in the context of the 'Train Man' falling in love with a girl who gave him expensive Hermes cups as a gift), or a contributor to the threat simply misinterpreted or misremembered the facts is unclear, but see p. 201 of the 2006 Constable & Robinson edition of 'Train Man' for the origin of this whole 'Royal warrant' deal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.210.82 (talk) 16:52, 24 August 2019 (UTC)