Talk:Berkeley nuclear power station

First Nuclear Power Station in the UK
I think that was [| Calder Hall] Wilmot1 (talk) 20:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You misunderstood the article. It states that Berkeley was the first to be decommissioned. --Cheesy Mike (talk) 23:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The BBC says Berkeley was the world's first commercial nuclear power station - "The Magnox reactor buildings at the world's first commercial nuclear power station stand square, almost defiantly, against the brisk breeze from the River Severn". I assume this is a BBC reporter getting it wrong? Rjm at sleepers (talk) 20:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Calder Hall (and Chapel Cross) were both designed for weapons-grade plutonium production, with electricity export to the grid as a by-product. In later years the military purpose was discontinued, but both stations remained in government ownership.
 * Berkeley was the first to be built purely for commercial power production (its reactor design is not optimised for plutonium production, though a small amount is formed during the nuclear reactions). It, together with its fellow Magnox reactors, was always in civilian ownership - the CEGB and its successors.    John M Brear (talk) 16:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:44, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

– casing, per WP:LOWERCASE (requested title exists as redirect} and consistency with other UK nuclear power stations Rosbif73 (talk) 13:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Berkeley Nuclear Power Station → Berkeley nuclear power station
 * Dungeness Nuclear Power Station → Dungeness nuclear power station
 * Hartlepool Nuclear Power Station → Hartlepool nuclear power station
 * Hinkley Point B Nuclear Power Station → Hinkley Point B nuclear power station
 * Oldbury Nuclear Power Station → Oldbury nuclear power station
 * Torness Nuclear Power Station → Torness nuclear power station
 * Wylfa Nuclear Power Station → Wylfa nuclear power station
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 14:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

, this needs a discussion. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 13:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose all 7. The fact that there are 7 of them undermines the consistency argument, and I think they may be proper names.
 * There are 13 others with lower case titles (Bradwell A and B, Chapelcross, Heysham, Hinkley Point A, B and C, Hunterston A and B, Sizewell A/B and C, Trawsfynydd and Wylfa Newydd). Either all 20 should be lower case, or all 20 should be upper case. Rosbif73 (talk) 14:09, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * @Rosbif73: Evidence of usage in reliable sources would be helpful. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 01:48, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Taking Berkeley as an example, some RS use all lower case, others use title case , others clearly see it as a proper name . Google ngram shows an almost exact 50/50 split in usage for Berkeley but a preference for lower case for the slightly more recent Oldbury  and Wylfa . My personal preference would be to apply WP:LOWERCASE, but if there's consensus in favour of these being considered as proper names we'd need to rename the other 13 instead. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:12, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree all. They all used to be lower case until circa 2010, I think reflecting official name use in the 1990s (eg see this 2000 Nuclear Installations Inspectorate report).  Then some were changed to upper case on WP without discussions on Talk; I thought with weak reason though I did not take issue with it at the time.  Nowadays official usage is mixed, usually without "nuclear power station" of either case: owner EDF uses just the location but does in one place say "Hinkley Point B is a nuclear power station ...", Office for Nuclear Regulation just uses the location name now, gov.uk uses "X Site" for the decommissioning Magnox stations.  There seems no official support for "Nuclear Power Station", and I think we should revert to "nuclear power station" which we used to use and I think from memory reflects common official usage in the stations' heydays from the 1960s to early 2000s (though we could research this to make sure). WP:LOWERCASE does say "Titles are written in sentence case" unless they are official/proper names and I don't see the official support for "Nuclear Power Station" - nowadays it is generally officially a location name and we are appending some necessary descriptive words, and it would make our usage consistent. Rwendland (talk) 12:08, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ... just to add a counterpoint to the above, highlighting the inconsistency in naming, in 2006 Nuclear Installations Inspectorate/HSE used eg "Hartlepool Power Station" in its Public Registers of Health and Safety Information and Local Liaison Committee reports. This tendency by 2006 may have been the reason for some WP article names to have been uppercased 2010 onward. But still no solid support for the "Nuclear Power Station" name. Rwendland (talk) 12:32, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Support all lowercase, in light of lack of consistency in sources to cap them, per MOS:CAPS. Dicklyon (talk) 16:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


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