Talk:Berlin, New Hampshire/Archives/2015

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Hey all, I'm the WikiProject Cities assessor of this article. If feedback is what you want and need, come to my talk page and give me a holler! --Starstriker7(Dime algoor see my works) 19:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Merge Infobox City NH with Infobox City?
Please see the discussion here. harpchad 15:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

It is possibly a bad idea as this article is all that Berlin has. Trust me. I live here and there isn't much left. Chances are next census the population will go below the city mark. Ever since the mill left nobody is left so I think this page should be left for it's "historical" importance.69.24.5.21 (talk) 13:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Grand Trunk link
I've removed a link that was added to the "Grand Trunk in New England" for a couple reasons: If anyone objects, please let me know. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) The page linked to is from Wikipedia
 * 2) The page linked to asks for donations
 * 3) I didn't see anything on the GT page that referenced Berlin

I do not know anything about the references for the page however I do not see anything wrong with the page being linked to having a donations link on it. Wikipedia has the same thing and no one has ever complained about it to the best of my knowledge.

Inventions in Berlin
So I am pretty sure that there were a few notable things that happened in Berlin, but I can't find any references: Can anyone verify or find references to these? -Dan Leveille 23:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Brown Paper Towels were invented in Berlin, by The Brown Company
 * PVC Piping was invented in Berlin
 * Crisco was invented in Berlin, but patented by another company.


 * Hi, Dan. The only mention I find of the invention of Crisco in Berlin is an |NHPR interview with a 10 year old boy.  While it's NHPR, it's a ten year-old, so I'm not sure that counts as a good reference :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 23:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

It was not Crisco but Kream Krisp. on the Crisco Wikipedia page it says, "While Kayser's patents were filed in 1910 and granted in 1915, with Crisco appearing on the market in 1911, Hugh Moore, chief chemist for the Berlin Mills Company in Berlin, New Hampshire, filed his patents by 1914 and they were granted in 1914 and 1916, with the vegetable shortening later trademarked in 1915 as Kream Krisp appearing on the market in 1914.[1] Procter & Gamble became aware of the competition by February 1915 and Burchenal contacted Berlin Mills claiming that they were infringing on P&G's patents and suggesting they meet to discuss the issue. When this failed P&G filed suit against Berlin Mills, the litigation being known as "Procter and Gamble vs. the Brown Company" (Berlin Mills Co. v. Procter & Gamble Co., 254 U.S. 156 (1920)), since in 1917 the Berlin Mills Co. became the Brown Company." So somethings were made in Berlin --Kenlukus (talk) 14:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:BerlinNHseal.jpg
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Moved images and added to requested images category
I've moved the 1912 postcard main street picture to the gallery and replaced it with the 2006 city hall picture. I've added the pxplsthx template to the talk page not because this article needs more pictures but because it needs a modern picture of downtown or the skyline. &mdash;M (talk • contribs) 02:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Beyond Brown Paper archive
I added a link to Beyond Brown Paper, an archive of photos from the Brown Company of Berlin, NH. The archives include approx. 15,000 items covering 1885 through 1965. (Disclaimer: I'm involved with the project.) It's a project of Plymouth State University, sponsored by the NH State Council on the Arts, and is based on the collection of photos given to the university in the 1980s. We're scanning the photos as fast as we can and posting daily. One of the most important features of the project is the comments people are contributing that help describe the photos, explain the times, and name the people we see in them. Misterbisson 17:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a great project! I'm wondering, though, if the link belongs on this article?  After all, while there are probably many photos of Berlin, the focus of the collection is on The Brown Paper Company.  Maybe the company needs an article? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  22:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Placement of sections
In articles about towns, doesn't the Geography and Demographic sections usually come before the History section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkharrisjr (talk • contribs) 13:02, September 23, 2009
 * No, it seems that History comes first, at least in the representative cities and towns I just checked throughout the northeastern US and Minnesota.--Ken Gallager (talk) 13:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Ken is correct. This is how all articles on WP are, history always comes first. I thought WP:LAYOUT had something on this, but apparently not. -- Dan Leveille TALK 04:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I've looked some more and found a few cities here and there which have geography first, but if you take the largest U.S. cities as a model, it's history. --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll keep that in mind for the future. Thanks! Wkharrisjr (talk) 14:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Berlin New Hampshire History website
I found a website about Berlin's history but someone removed it. It was made on weebly but is all about the history of Berlin. I don't see how this could not be a refrence or external link because its educational. I think we should re-add this site because its about this town and has some other external links on it too. the site in www.berlinhistory.weebly.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenlukus (talk • contribs)
 * That's funny, because looking at the page history, the link was here before you started editing, but it was previously added by a editor who had been warned almost to the point of being blocked that blog sites like Weebly are NOT accepted according to the external links or reliable sources guidelines, and by his banned sockpuppet. Funny enough, both of them focused on the same articles as you, lived in the same area as you, and shared your idiosyncratic misspelling of cousin (your's, his).
 * I say "funny" because that editor would have to be completely stupid to try and come back under a different account to try and add his Weebly blog again, because it's been explained to him almost ten times under two different accounts that the site isn't accepted, when it really only takes three or four warnings to justify a block.
 * Now, if he had came back under a different account, but only to start fresh and edit within the guidelines (without pushing his blog), I'd be willing to ignore that and not file another sockpuppet report, and pretend that it was a completely different person.
 * Anyone can publish a Weebly blog, any crack-head monkey with down syndrome can sit on the keyboard and publish it on Weebly, Blogspot, or various other websites. That's why we almost never accept links to those blogs, unless it is proven that the blog belongs to someone especially noteworthy (that is, the author has to have an article about themselves here, and there better be a non-blog source pointing to that site as their blog).  Short of that, we don't take blogs.  Ever.  Even when we take them, there are restrictions to how those pages can be used.  You can read more about acceptable sources and links at WP:Reliable sources and WP:External links.  Ian.thomson (talk) 13:26, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Paul "Poof" Tardiff
I recently added Paul “Poof” Tardiff to the history section of this page but I was just wondering if he should also go into the “Notable People” section? He’s notable in the New Hampshire area but I don’t know if this would make him a candidate for this section? --Russianamerican1 (talk) 13:10, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * He doesn't need to be listed twice. You could make a good argument for where he is now or for the Notable People section, so I would recommend leaving it as is. --Ken Gallager (talk) 18:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Unbelievable B-Class rating
This article is only 27,000 bytes long and it is rated B-class? It seems more like a C-class article.


 * It doesn’t go by length, it goes by if the article is well written and well presented with references. It seems to me this article should be a B, it’s not the greatest but it’s not the worse. Oh and don't for get to sign after, two dashes (--) and three of these (~). --Russianamerican1 (talk) 00:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Keating Sisters
Do you think we should add the Keating sisters to the notable people part? Helen Keating & Elizabeth Keating acted on The Mad Parade and other movies in the 1930s.--Russianamerican1 (talk) 18:41, 21 February 2013 (UTC)