Talk:Bernard Cribbins/Archive 1

Doctor Who appearance
In case anyone thinks it's worth mentioning in the article, there's news that Bernard Cribbins will be in the next season of Doctor Who. --Mark H Wilkinson (t, c) 15:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Please restore the image
Please restore the image or provide an explanation as to why it was removed. Hobit (talk) 19:30, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The Foundation doesn't permit the use of fair use images for identification/depiction purposes of living people since they are replaceable with free content. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

image
i have added the image of cribbins in his role from doctor who Alexsau1991 (talk) 00:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This is against policy. We do not use fair use images of living people for depiction. I've reverted you. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Doctor Who media hat-trick
Cribbins is to my mind the only actor to have appeared in Doctor Who in all three licensed media of TV (Wilf Mott, throughout 10th Doctor era), film (Tom Campbell, Dalek Invasion Earth 2150AD) and radio (Arnold Korns, The Horror Of Glam Rock, BBC Radio 7). If true, this is a highly notable record. Has this been remarked upon anywhere else that we can cite, please? Andrew Oakley (talk) 16:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

films
Bernard Cribbins is in "The Adventures of Picasso" (1978) swedish film. right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.69.234.178 (talk) 07:11, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * That's correct. The Swedish name of the film is "Picassos äventyr" and can be found under Bernard's entry at IMDB.  Any idea whether he was speaking English or Swedish?  He was also in a film which was in French and English (Allez France!) although I don't know which he spoke in that film.  If he was speaking a foreign (to him) language in those movies, that could be a point worth including.  Opinions, others?
 * Mathsgirl (talk) 06:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I remember seeing him in a fim in which he played a policeman. It was a drama and he was very good in it. He was investigating a murder that happenned a long time ago and discovered the murderer was the man who was now his boss in the police. Can anybody remember the name of the films, its not on any cv or database i've seen for him. A Quinlan82.42.121.120 (talk) 10:48, 7 April 2011 (UTC)


 * You might be referring to "Dangerous Davies: The Last Detective." I haven't seen it so I can't say for certain but the information at IMDB suggests it could be.


 * I'm not certain whether you raise that question in relation to improving the article. If not, just a "heads up."  Talk pages are basically more a place for editor-discussions than chat about the content.  If what I wrote is confusing, try the guidelines here:  Guidelines  :-)
 * Mathsgirl (talk) 06:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Links leading nowhere
There are a number of links leading to non-existent articles. Would it be worth changing these back to text only? Most of them are in the second Television section. In the case of "The Further Adventures of Noddy", it would be possible to redirect it to a section on the Noddy page where it's listed: Noddy Entry

Also, I made a minor edit a few minutes ago but overlooked the "Explain" box. I don't know if the history can somehow be edited but figure I'll leave that be, since I'm not sure how. The edit was simply correcting a typo on the second Television entry "The Good Old Days" where the 's' had been left off the end of 'Days' and the link was therefore pointing nowhere instead of to the correct page. Mathsgirl (talk) 07:10, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Rearranging entire entry may be a good idea.
If you look at the contents, you'll notice that section 1 is about his early life and sections 2, 6 and 7 are about his career. They are divided by sections covering specific aspects of his career. Also there are two sections headed "Films" (3 and 11) and two sections headed "Television" (5 and 10). Perhaps they should be merged to form two sections instead of the four. I'm still getting the hang of the policies here and how to edit correctly so I'll leave it for more experienced editors to make those decisions and carry out any action decided upon. Mathsgirl (talk) 07:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Span of career
So which is it. Did he make his debut in the mid '50s or has his career spanned over half a century? 96.50.10.234 (talk) 04:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Music Charts
One section says his record "hole in the ground" was #1. The later section says #9. Which is it? --Quatermass (talk) 22:18, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

New photos
I've uploaded the rest of the photos of Cribbins from the filming of Old Jack's Boat last year. Thought they might be useful for the article. commons:Category:Old Jack's Boat. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Television appearances
I'm sitting here watching Midsomer murders and Bernard cribbins is in it. It's the later version,not the version with john nettles He played a character called Duggie Wingate and the episode was made in 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.220.101.51 (talk) 22:01, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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Personal life?
Has he had one? Famous people usually do? Married? Parents? Siblings? Etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.45.140 (talk) 00:05, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * His website promises some biography "in the next few days": . 86.188.121.87 (talk) 00:14, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Britain's Favourite
I don't know whether there are any polls or even some kind of "official" recognition as such but Bernard Cribbins must surely be among the top of any number of lists of "Britain's Favourite X". Does anyone have information about this kind of thing? 79.79.242.250 (talk) 19:43, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Place of birth
In his 2018 book Bernard Who?: 75 Years of Doing Just About Everything Cribbins says he was born in Oldham. He also says, on page 22: "We'd recently moved from Smith Street to a new council house in a place called Derker". He doesn't actually say he was born in Smith Street (which is in the Spring Hill area), but this suggests to me that he was not born in Derker. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: FreeBMD.org.uk shows that his birth was registered in 1st quarter 1929; name: Cribbins, Bernard; mother: Clarkson; district: Oldham; volume: 8d; page: 1128 (Scan available). Martinevans123 (talk) 12:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Bernard Cribbins
Also narrated " A Passion For Angling" http://www.passionforangling.info/passion%20for.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.138.153 (talk) 21:15, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Twitter trend
It seems that some folks, such as Peter Shilton, think he's died, as he is trending on Twitter. Today is, in fact, his birthday. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:10, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Paddington Bear
Can we add something about Cribbins role as the reader/ voice of Paddington Bear? Does anyone have a good source? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:36, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Final roles
His last appearances in film and TV are both labelled "final role" - does this mean that he has now officially retired (not unreasonably as he is over 90)?Paulturtle (talk) 16:44, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * People can be lured out of retirement. I think it's better to say 'last role to date'. Valetude (talk) 15:39, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Parents dates
An IP user has changed his mother's birth from 1897 to 1898. But are there sources for any of those dates ? They are not mentioned in the Mirror article shown as source. -- Beardo (talk) 16:37, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The Daily Mirror is probably not the best of sources anyway. But you're right, it gives no dates for Ethel, just saying: "He was born in Oldham and grew up close to poverty with two siblings, cotton weaver mum Ethel and "Jack of all trades" father John." Even The Times here says much the same: "Cribbins grew up in Oldham, Lancashire, the middle of three children (he has outlived his sisters, Veronica and Kathleen). His father, Jack, was a handyman who did a lot of property repair. His mother, Ethel, was a weaver in a cotton mill." Indeed, why would a newspaper article ever include the years of the parents' births. It's the kind of detail you'd get from Who Do You Think You Are?, but Cribbins has never been featured. If you search FreeBMD for any "Ethel Clarkson" births in 1897 and 1898, only one was born in Oldham and that's this one in Sept 1897. That doesn't prove much though, and of course it's WP:OR. I wonder who first added those dates in this article? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:56, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It strikes me that the Mirror article was related to the publication of his autobiography - that may have this sort of information. -- Beardo (talk) 20:06, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's quite possible. I've added a source to the article. A quick search reveals no dates for parents, but you could try. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:13, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Knighthood Petitions
Since 2013, there have been a least 3 online petitions calling for Cribbins to be awarded a Knighthood:

petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/46843 change.org/p/permanent-secretary-of-the-foreign-and-commonwealth-office-award-bernard-cribbins-a-knighthood-for-services-to-tv-film-radio-narration-and-music change.org/p/give-bernard-cribbins-a-knighthood

But Wikipedia does not allow links to these petition sites as sources. Not even the UK Government one.

So how do I add this information if the petitions themselves are not allowed to be referenced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.10.153 (talk) 00:54, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't. Anyone can create a petition for any reason, and the mere existence of these petitions are not enough for them to be included in the article. If independent, third-party reliable sources report on them, then, and only then, can they be considered for inclusion into the article. As of now, though, they're simply not notable enough for inclusion into the article, especially considering one has less than 1000 signatures and another less than 100. SkyWarrior  01:09, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

The bed sitting room info is wrong
The bed sitting room is a 1969 film and a 2016 radio play adaptation. The 2016 link is radio drama not film. 2001:67C:1232:144:206E:63AD:2E4F:A9D1 (talk) 10:11, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Date of death?
When did Cribbins really die?

Telegraph Obituary says July 28:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2022/07/28/bernard-cribbins-comic-actor-whose-panoply-characters-included/

Guardian obituary says July 27 :

https://amp.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/jul/28/bernard-cribbins-obituary

Does anyone out there know more? 95.193.56.84 (talk) 12:35, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * His death was announced on 28 July. If one source says 27 July, I would imagine that they've done better fact checking for it, as Telegraph has probably assumed that date death announced = date he died. But don't know for sure. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:41, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * FWIW, the Times's obit also says he died today, not yesterday. Like Joseph2302, my suspicion with these sorts of disputes is that the sources that give a date other than the date of announcement are correct, but it's not exclusively true. We'll have to see what other sources say. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 13:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if WP allows original research, but the best person to contact would be his agent, I would imagine. It was him that made the announcement, so I would presume he'd know the facts more than the newspapers would. The details for the agency are here: https://www.gavinbarkerassociates.co.uk/contact   Dane &#124; Geld  14:02, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that original research is not permitted. I know users have had some success in the past at contacting the newspapers and asking about these things, as sometimes one will notice they made an error and run a correction. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 14:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I've run into this before especially in cases where somebody passes away late at night or in their sleep. Usually what I do is wait a few days and if there is a correction to be made to the date, it's usually done by then. I would also take dates in some sources such as the Times of London or the BBC to be authoritative, so if they say July 28 then it was July 28. But double-checking is always a good idea because we've had cases where deaths haven't been announced sometimes for weeks. Is there a WP tag for "to be confirmed"? Another factor is time zones. If a piece of US media reported last night (July 27 US time) that Cribbins had just died, well that would be July 28 UK time, of course. 23skidoo (talk) 15:23, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe put it like 27/28? Great Mercian (talk) 17:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

[https://people.com/tv/bernard-cribbins-doctor-who-star-and-wombles-narrator-dead-at-93/ Cribbins' agent confirmed he died on Wednesday in a statement. A cause of death was not immediately released.] Rusted AutoParts  17:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


 * A direct confirmation from the agent is good enough for me. I've changed the death date on the article to July 27 and kept the Times and Telegraph obits in the note. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 17:24, 28 July 2022 (UTC)