Talk:Bernard de Neufmarché

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There seem to be some 'factoids' about Bernard: that he was half-brother to William the Conqueror, and married a Welsh wife. Having looked into it, I don't believe these. Charles Matthews 21:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I think I have explained the errors in the article by making refernce to his real relationship to the Conqueror's family and to the Welsh princess. Srnec 06:11, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Castles99uk's edits
I do not like reverting what appear to be very informative and probably accurate edits, but since they involved the major removal of cited material and addition of uncited material I have reverted all of User:Castles99uk's edits. I will try to look into it some more in the near future. Srnec (talk) 05:27, 25 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Just a quick note to say that I am a professional historian working on Wales and the Marches in the Medieval period. If you take a look at my web site at www.castles99.ukprint.com you will see what I am up to.  I'm afraid, as you may have guessed from my changes to Bernard's page there is a lot of 'information' on him that is rather fanciful.  best wishes, --Paul Remfry (talk) 20:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note that I have tried to re-add most of the information. Srnec (talk) 06:55, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Paul's assertion that he is a professional does not absolve him from the need to give citations for the changes he made. Also I wonder whether advertisements for his own books unlinked to any specific points in the article is acceptable here.--Doug (talk) 23:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course, but the information he added sounds reasonable and he did add two references (his own works), even though no citations. Srnec (talk) 03:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Powys
Srnec - Powys was correct. It is the name of the old kingdom and the present day county which both include the area of Brecknockshire. I have reverted this. --Doug (talk) 23:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I only knew of the old Powys and I thought he wasn't from Powys, but whatever: he was in a sense. Srnec (talk) 03:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't think these categories add much to the article. I would rather see them go, but it's not an important issue. --Doug (talk) 13:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

iron0037's edits
The article says that his wife was the "daughter of Llewelyn ap Gruffydd." That links to an article about someone who lived in the 1200s. I imagine that's an error of some sort. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.158.182 (talk) 18:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Agnes is Anglo-Norman for Nest
Agnes was indeed the name of Bernard's wife but Agnes was the Anglo-Norman translation of Nest which was also her mother's name-hence the confusion. There are many documents which name Bernard's wife -correctly- as Nest ferch Osbern, and in point of fact ThePeerage.com gives her name as such. Bernard's mother-in-law is usually listed as Nest ferch Gruffydd.--jeanne (talk) 06:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)