Talk:Bert Bell

there's nothing wrong with this article
it's okay. i think it's solid. i'm happy with it. i am sure copy editing could always make it better. but it's the best i could do. as far as a long ago complaint that maybe it does not show bell's compassion for the game, i dunno, i think i have portrayed him as very, to extremely, passionate to the success of the nfl. i think it meets good article criteria, however i have no time to reply to good article judges so i had to remove my request it be considered a good article. Ijustreadbooks (talk) 03:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Philadelphia Eagles (1933–1940)
First paragraph needs major copy edit - that will not be easy. The fourth paragraph is a complete joke - need major research to be done. Atrocious job in this section. Ijustreadbooks (talk) 03:26, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Need fix on Bert Bell's father being selected or elected as AG
"His father was an attorney who served a term as the Pennsylvania Attorney General."
 * My citation does not really support this. Need a fix on a better source. Notified editor who made the change and requested he provide a better source. Ijustreadbooks (talk) 04:37, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, technically speaking, your source does not support that. For all anyone knows, Bell Sr. changed his mind and did not serve and your source simply did not point this out.  For the record, however, the important thing is that Bell Sr. did serve, and this is well-documented in numerous official state documents from the AG office with his name prominently listed as AG.
 * I changed the sentence to concentrate on the important issue: Bell Sr. served a term as state AG. How he got there isn't too important to an article about the son.  As it is, your source was a book about the history of football, and the author did not bother to doublecheck how things were done in Pennsylvania politics in 1911.  PA had always had an appointed AG until around 1980, when the law was changed and the office became elective.
 * I have been spending the past week cleaning up and greatly expanding the whole PA AG topic, adding several articles, and numerous more are on the way. As part of the cleanup I've been finding minor little falsehoods in related articles, like this one.  So for your sake I will create an article on Bell Sr. later today, sooner than I expected to, and I will provide there several citations, including his NYT obituary and at least one official PA state document with a brief bio, both of which mention that he was appointed.  Look for Bell Sr.'s name to become a blue link on the article page.
 * In addition, earlier in his career, Bell Sr. had been appointed Philadelphia DA to fill out someone's unfinished term, and then he ran and was elected back to the same office. Choor monster (talk) 11:56, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Bell astutely argued
I have not been involved in Wikipedia for a few years so I will have to dig up my username. I really do not like "Bell astutely argued" in the introduction. No one reads the article, even less no one writes on the talk page. So, I do not see any problem with removing the word astutely. I have looked at that "astutely" for quite some time. There are all kinds of wikipedia rules - which I know nothing about. But, I am going to remove that word astutely before the end of the year. I am sure that I was the one that wrote that, but you just can not put the word "astutely" in an introduction. It's just wrong. I just must have made a mistake. 66.234.58.130 (talk) 07:24, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

I made the change. 66.234.58.130 (talk) 10:44, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

He survived to oversee
"He survived to oversee the 'Greatest Game Ever Played' and to envision what the league would become in the future." I do not really like this in the introduction because of what I wrote here "to envision what the league would become in the future". That statement is supported by an anecdotal statement via the current footnote 157 from Raymond Berry. But I really do not like that kind of things because anyone can say anything. I want to trim it down to "He survived to oversee the 'Greatest Game Ever Played'" and maybe combine that statement with another sentence in the paragraph. I will have to think about this.

Oh, I know my username - ijustreadbooks -, but i do not feel like recovering my password.

I think I want to delete the whole sentence: "He survived to oversee the "Greatest Game Ever Played" and to envision what the league would become in the future." The sentence really makes no sense to me. 66.234.58.130 (talk) 00:31, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

The sentence is OK in the body of the article. But I really do not want it in the introduction. 66.234.58.130 (talk) 00:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)