Talk:Bert McCracken/Archive 1

not so much encyclopedic
um, the whole thing with trash-talking my chemical romance and like, the "true nature behind their falling out" strkies me as gossipy snd unencyclopedic. anyone want to fix it? i do not feel like i could as i don't know a lot about the incident, but i'm sure one fo you guys could do it. <3

Mormon?
I've removed the "Latter-day Saint singers" category until someone can provide citation. Does McCracken currently self-identify as Mormon? Being from a Momron family is not enough. -Porlob 18:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I thought that when he was a teenager, he ran away from home wanting to get away from the Mormon religious beliefs. Didn't he say somewhere (sorry I can't give the actual location of the information because I'm not absolutely positive) that he didn't like some of the things you had to follow to be a Mormon? In this case, I don't think he wants to be classified as Mormon. (But I'm not 100% sure.) MusicGirl21 23:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Even if you are not currently a practicing Mormon, you are still Mormon. The only way you can no longer be Mormon is if you are excommunicated. So unless Bert was excommunicated he's still a LDS Singer. Even if the person chooses to say he/she is no longer Mormon, they are still Mormon. Bunny 02:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Bunny. You are still Mormon, even if you don't want to be considered mormon. however, i do believe that he actually was excomunicated, in which case he is no longer mormon. but if they are refered to as a mormon band, then i'm pretty sure they're still mormon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.140.236.43 (talk) 22:12, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced Comment?
The closing line, "Fame has gotten to his head, the best word to describe Bert would be "asshole"." is un-sourced. While this may be true, maybe it should get backed up?

Sounds like vandalism, has been deleted.

Ok here's what I think. HE IS NOT AN ASSHOLE!! I CANT BELIEVE YOU PPL WOULD SAY THAT ABOUT HIM! Bert is a fricken God!! And I love him deeply, Fame got to him so he did some drugs, so what havent we all!?!

Bert stopped doing drugs before 2005. The drugs came BEFORE the fame —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.26.85.49 (talk) 07:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I thought Bert said that he had a problem with drinking.
In many interveiws Bert has said that he does have problems with drinking. In a SPIN magazine they asked him if he would stop drinking because of the acute pancreas diease and he said that no he probably wouldn't that when someone told him to stop doing something it made him want to do it more.

He's never had a drinking problem, only a drug problem. He was a big druggie before the "In Love and Death" CD came out. He's still got his problems but he's still me hero :)

He likes is up the butt?
What the hell does this comment have to do with anything, especially the paragraph its connected to? no, I think he just likes to make out with guys. no, bert would never bottom.

Well idk if he likes it up the but... but i kno he is bi. in The song CHOKE ME he screams "Fuck My Ass" so maybe he does. oh and my friend left me a comment on myspace and it had a pic of him in a shirt that said BUT SEX IS ITCHY. who knos.

um in the song 'Choke Me' he says "Bert fuck my ass" HE IS BERT! so i dont really think that means his bi or gay. i think that just makes him... a horny guy. maybe some one said that to him? I dont know, but i refuse to think he is gay! HE'S SO HOT! he cant be gay!

no, he doesnt say "Bert fuck my ass" he just says "Fuck my ass" with a scream before it. But even that doesnt necessarily make him bi. We know that he isnt gay however, since his ex-girlfriend was pregnant (before she died), plus he even mentioned about having sex with his current girlfriend in a Kerrang interview. I rest my case. Grungedude22 (talk) 12:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Marriage
Where is the proof he's married to this Brianne girl? Last week the article said he was dating a girl named Kathryn or something. Is there any source that states he got married?72.164.60.199 16:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

ok and NOW he's married to someone else..risa madden. are people just injecting their own names into this article? lolll. wikipedia doesn't make you married to him, people!! :] anyways, i've never edited anything on here before, so i'll leave it to the pros..just thought i'd let you know. 72.164.60.199 02:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I really don't think he's married, and anyways, I've never seen/heard any information stating that he was. MusicGirl21 22:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

On a Myspace fansite I have seen May 25 as a popular date for when Bert got married or is going to get married? So did he get married on May 25, or is he going to get married on the 25? Martha 93 02:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC) Martha 93

I know this is old but Just to say I saw a video on youtube and he was like this is the love of my life Alison. That was Feb. 25, 2007.. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3TNGJ_eiT5Y That is the link-- Kirsten. 29 July, 2007

IMDB has a listing that he's married which isn't true. He lives with his girlfriend (some Australian chick), I think her name is Allison but she goes by Ally. Ronin103 11 November 2007 —Preceding comment was added at 18:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

ok i deleted the thing were she said "lol Im Allison" cuz its crap. she cant even spell her name! Berts GIRLFRIEND's name is ALISON. and there is a vid of them on the useds myspace. :]

Bert and Ally got married last week in LA fyi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.100.42 (talk) 04:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Bert's page is so inaccurate!!
OK, most of the shit on this page is exactly that, shit!!!!! He is so not morman he ran away from home to escape his morman family!!DUH!And I've never heard anywhere that he's married but i did hear his current GF over dosed.Xxxboycrazyemoxxx 19:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)jennieXxxboycrazyemoxxx 19:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

you idiot. he ran away from his mormon family because he WAS mormon. he was baptised, which, duh, makes you mormon.

'The Beginning of The Used' McCracken was part of the straight edge community for a week

what is that supposed to mean!? please fix this

Ok here's how it really goes. Bert McCracken did indeed run-away from home to escape from his family and religion. He isn't mormon any longer, it was his choice to stop being mormon. And trust me I know what it's like to be forced into religion, I had christianity shoved down my throat, now im a hardcore athiest. Anyways he had a girlfriend a couple years ago who overdosed and died. Then he got a fiance whom died while attempting to give birth to mini bert (bert's kid). So now he's lonely and NOT dating anyone. I am a hardcore THE USED fan and I wont stand for all these lies.

So whoever made the first comment, you were parshally right but some what not. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.213.22.120 (talk) 14:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

No, it was the pregnant EX-girlfriend that overdosed on Independence Day 2004. He has since acquired a fiancee in Australia who did NOT overdose. Ask any fan that's seen them together. And he didn't run away from home, he was kicked out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.26.85.49 (talk) 17:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced Material
Unsourced material, especially potentially negative material, is not allowed in articles that fall within WP:BLP. Because this is a bio of a living person, I am removing a lot of material from this article until someone provides cites.-Robotam 14:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The whole article is unsourced and I've tagged it as such. Trevor GH5 00:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Good point, thanks.-Robotam 13:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Child
The page mentions his girlfriend Kate died of an OD while pregnant; did the child also die? Kingoomieiii 20:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the child died... Redspark09 20:50, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

May 27, 2007
Cleaned up page, broke most of the page into a "Biography" section which includes Career and Personal Life information. Feud with My Chemical Romance vocalist Gerard Way is seperate from main biographical information. Tagged most sections with {unsourced} - Career section needs it to, but with the infobox in place the tag messes up the display of information on the page (adds a huge empty block of space). --Ozgod 14:18, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

WTF happened to this article?
The Career section is a joke. --Pwnage8 (talk) 23:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

HEGIRA! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.246.115 (talk) 18:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Get a better picture
bert looks like one of satans fucked up kids in this photo. change it it's really fucking ugly.--Velanthis (talk) 03:24, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

How dare you say that about BERT MCCRACKEN! He is a God! He saved me from SMing!! he is gorgeous and my idol! He deserves only the best and if you ever read this Bert, know that im sticking up for you and not letting any say this crap about you!!!!!!!! You are my hero, screw God, your my savior! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.213.22.120 (talk) 14:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

material removed
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drugs
" To this day, he smokes marijuana daily and drinks one to three beers per day, though he has stopped doing drugs as of 2005."

No drugs - apart from marijuana and beer, that is ? -- Beardo (talk) 23:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Bert McCracken
I hate you poser people who go on Wiki looking all cool and THINK you know everything about Bert McCracken. YOU DON'T!! Some of you do but 50% of you dont know wtf ur talking about!

xoxo luv Allison Farley

Allison, I like your name ;)

~

Help
One of the HTML codes for references isn't working. All of the sources starting at number six have been somehow meshed together into the paragraph about Kate's death, and I don't know how to fix it. Could someone help it out?66.26.85.49 (talk) 01:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

There was an unclosed ref tag in the Relationship with Kelly Osbourne section. See Citing Sources, specifically Ref tags for further information and better citation techniques. --Blitzvergnugen (talk) 05:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Am I hard of hearing?
I've listened to Doctor by Cute Is What We Aim For over and over and over again and have heard no sign whatsoever of Bert's voice in there at all. Is there proof of him singing in it? Grungedude22 (talk) 16:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
Does anyone else think the trivium about brocolli "making Bert horny" is completely pointless? I mean, he was probably joking anyway. Grungedude22 (talk) 19:23, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

shouldn't it be
his marriage to his girlfriend be in a specialized category..hmm such as Personal Life?

i mean i'm just sayin. heh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.165.100.86 (talk) 07:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)